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    Question Woodhouse's Toad: Eyes Half Closed

    I found this little guy in my backyard and I'd love to keep him. His eyes are half closed like in the photo. Is there a way to treat this at home?

    1. Size of enclosure
    10 g, glass with screen top

    2. # of inhabitants - specifically other frogs and size differences
    one toad of unknown sex

    3. Humidity
    40-60

    4. Temperature
    81f

    5. Water - type - for both misting and soaking dish
    Tap treated with reptisafe

    6. Materials used for substrate
    Spagnum moss and coconut fiber

    7. Enclosure set up i.e. plants (live or artificial), wood, bark and other materials.
    ceramic hide and resin water dish.

    - How were things prepared prior to being put into the viv.
    bleach and rinsed well

    8. Main food source
    large crickets so far

    9. Vitamins and calcium? (how often)
    none so far

    10. Lighting
    ambient room lights, dim

    11. What is being used to maintain the temperature of the enclosure
    ambient room temp, I'm in az

    12. When is the last time he/she ate
    last night when he was outside maybe?

    13. Have you found poop lately
    nope

    14. A pic would be helpful
    https://www.dropbox.com/s/al1rttdj4i....41-1.jpg?dl=0

    15. Describe frog's symptoms and/or recent physical changes; to include it's ventral/belly area.
    Keeps eyes partially closed like in the photo

    16. How old is the frog
    unknown

    17. How long have you owned him/her
    1 day

    18. Is the frog wild caught or captive bred
    Wild caught

    19. Frog food- how often and if it is diverse, what other feeders are used as treats
    none accept crickets

    20. How often the frog is handled
    After initial setup not at all.

    21. Is the enclosure kept in a high or low traffic area
    low
    22. Describe enclosure maintenance (water changes, cleaning, etc)
    often water changes.

    Thanks for any help you might give!
    Hi! I'm a new frogger.

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    Default Re: Woodhouse's Toad: Eyes Half Closed

    Sorry I don't know what to tell you, I've never found anything telling what to do with eye problems in frogs. Maybe give it longer than a day and see if he's still doing it.

    Also you might want to look for other signs of illness like sluggishness or skin shedding problems to figure out if it's just an eye injury or the frog has some illness.
    Last edited by elly; May 14th, 2015 at 02:28 PM.

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    Default Re: Woodhouse's Toad: Eyes Half Closed

    Thanks for including the habitat notes, they are very helpful. First, the temperature is too high for this species of toad, the ideal is around 68 degrees (F). The humidity is also a bit high. Toads have thick, warty skin which allows them to live in dryer, cooler conditions. I don't think there is anything wrong with the eye. What you see is the nictitating membrane which makes the eye look cloudy. This is a "third eyelid" or covering that protects the eye from dust and the effects of dry air (kind of like eye drops).
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    Default Re: Woodhouse's Toad: Eyes Half Closed

    He's still closing that one eye. It looks glossy with gunk today. Just gave him a bath.
    should I let him back outside after/if the eye gets better? The house is too hot and stays 80 in the summer. :c
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    Default Re: Woodhouse's Toad: Eyes Half Closed

    If it gets better, letting him outside would probably be for the best. Even if it doesn't, frogs can survive with one eye.

    If you do keep him, maybe try a fan to cool the area.

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    Default Re: Woodhouse's Toad: Eyes Half Closed

    Oh dear, that doesn't look good. If he's eating that's a good sign though. It means maybe he's not so far gone he's just given up. Keep us updated please

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    Default Re: Woodhouse's Toad: Eyes Half Closed

    He refused to eat for three days and turned dark. i let him a few days ago outside in a hide. He looked better (if it's him) when j saw him yesterday! he was near the same hide.
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