Shipping a frog in winter... Safe?

[MantidBro]

has anyone ever had a frog shipped to them during the winter?

[deranged chipmunk]

Yes. Depending on who is doing the shipping, it is perfectly safe.


Education is the most powerful weapon we can use to change the world ~ Nelson Mandela

[Crunchy Frog]

It really depends on shipping methods, packaging, and how low the temps are.

I once got a shipment of pumilios (around 16 years ago) in the middle of January in Colorado, during very frigid weather. Big mistake, as the frogs arrived practically frozen. I was able to bring them around, but it was not a pleasant experience.

I've been looking at some sites recently, and many of them don't have a live arrival guarantee if you ship below 40 degrees.

[MantidBro]

Yes. Depending on who is doing the shipping, it is perfectly safe.


Education is the most powerful weapon we can use to change the world ~ Nelson Mandela

I was thiniing to go through backwaterreptiles. They have only had 1.4% DOAs. It seems like it may be ok. But i wanted to hear of other peoples experiences. Thanks for your response!

[MantidBro]

It really depends on shipping methods, packaging, and how low the temps are.

I once got a shipment of pumilios (around 16 years ago) in the middle of January in Colorado, during very frigid weather. Big mistake, as the frogs arrived practically frozen. I was able to bring them around, but it was not a pleasant experience.

I've been looking at some sites recently, and many of them don't have a live arrival guarantee if you ship below 40 degrees.

Who had you used for shipment?

At backwaterreptiles they say they use heatpacks and package very well and have only had 1.4% DOAs, even in winter.. But still i want to hear of others experiences

Thanks for your response!

[MatthewM1]

Backwater is awful. Never heard anything but poor things about them. Also they are drop shippers, they dont have the animals they sell. You buy from them and then they have their vendors ship to you.

[MantidBro]

Backwater is awful. Never heard anything but poor things about them. Also they are drop shippers, they dont have the animals they sell. You buy from them and then they have their vendors ship to you.

Yeah i was just reading the thread about them on here... WOW. Theyre site is very misleading. Saw some youtube videos too... Read some comments... Some people were sent the wrong animals, others received dead ones, and never given their money back. And it seems the people there have major attitude. Basically, nothing is their fault and its all the customers fault. Im not going through them. Ill wait if i must. I checked lllreptile, seems to be a very good site, based on comments here about it. Unfortunately they dont have red eyes, just those pale agalychnis...

If you know of anyone trust worthy who has adult female red eyed tree frogs available please let me know?

[MatthewM1]

LLL is MUCH better, but like with any dealer you'll still find some negative reviews if you dig hard enough. I personally like to deal with other hobbyists/breeders over large dealers, but thats not always a possibility.

Can't help you there. You could try posting a wanted ad in the classifieds section.

[deranged chipmunk]

LLL are awesome. But if you are serious about getting red eyes, there is only one person you want to talk to: Michael Novy of rainforest junky's.

Www.rainforestjunkies.com


Education is the most powerful weapon we can use to change the world ~ Nelson Mandela

[MantidBro]

LLL is MUCH better, but like with any dealer you'll still find some negative reviews if you dig hard enough. I personally like to deal with other hobbyists/breeders over large dealers, but thats not always a possibility.

Can't help you there. You could try posting a wanted ad in the classifieds section.

Thanks for the help

[MantidBro]

LLL are awesome. But if you are serious about getting red eyes, there is only one person you want to talk to: Michael Novy of rainforest junky's.

Www.rainforestjunkies.com


Education is the most powerful weapon we can use to change the world ~ Nelson Mandela

Thats funny, i contacted him earlier and he just got back to me. He has them! awesome. thanks a lot for the help.

[MatthewM1]

Thanks for the help

Np man

[Crunchy Frog]

I'm glad you found what you were looking for, and that you found out about Backwater Reptiles before it was too late. I've heard nothing but good about Michael Novy, and I'm virtually certain that they wouldn't ship unless they thought it was safe.

As far as the pumilios, that was 16 or more years ago, and I don't recall any of the details, other than that the frogs were delivered to my door. Alot has changed since then, and I doubt that the dealer is even still around.

I don't know where you're located, or what sort of temps you've been getting. I'm in Central New York, and we've had unremitting cold for several weeks. I've been waiting almost 3 weeks to get a shipment from NEherp, and don't know how much longer it will be, and that's just some plant cuttings and a fruit fly culture, and they do use heat packs. I wouldn't dare try to have an animal shipped in these kinds of conditions.

Hope you can get your frogs soon.

[MantidBro]

I'm glad you found what you were looking for, and that you found out about Backwater Reptiles before it was too late. I've heard nothing but good about Michael Novy, and I'm virtually certain that they wouldn't ship unless they thought it was safe.

As far as the pumilios, that was 16 or more years ago, and I don't recall any of the details, other than that the frogs were delivered to my door. Alot has changed since then, and I doubt that the dealer is even still around.

I don't know where you're located, or what sort of temps you've been getting. I'm in Central New York, and we've had unremitting cold for several weeks. I've been waiting almost 3 weeks to get a shipment from NEherp, and don't know how much longer it will be, and that's just some plant cuttings and a fruit fly culture, and they do use heat packs. I wouldn't dare try to have an animal shipped in these kinds of conditions.

Hope you can get your frogs soon.

Yeah its winter here which is why i was asking if its ok to ship frogs in winter... Seems scary. I do think ill wait til its at least 40 degrees F. I wouldnt want a frog to die due to any sort of impatience. Ill gladly wait til its safe for the frogs sake. Though i do think i will go with michael novy. I think ill try calling him as it says on his website that he isnt always available for email.