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    I don't know, you could get lucky and some springtails could just show up. Or you could find pillbugs in your yard. (I don't know if they carry parasites though.)

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    Would this mix of subsrate be like the ABG from josh's frogs? I found this mix on another post for a viv but the tank didn't house frogs.

    2 Parts Potting mix peat moss http://www.bunnings.com.au/potting-m...31344_p3010202
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    Would this mix of substrate be like the ABG from josh's frogs? I found this mix on another post for a viv but the tank didn't house frogs.

    2 Parts Potting mix peat moss http://www.bunnings.com.au/potting-m...31344_p3010202
    2 Parts Cocofibre
    1 Part pine back http://www.bunnings.com.au/mulch-pin...-4040_p3010176
    1 Part Hort charcoal http://www.bunnings.com.au/soil-impr...30288_p3016175

    Also would this spray foam work and is it safe for the frogs? http://www.bunnings.com.au/filler-ex...-foam_p1211402

    Thanks!

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    That sounds like the recipe. As for the spray foam, I'm going to cautiously say yes, since it says it can be used outdoors but I'm not entirely sure. Maybe a new thread about the foam in the viv section would attract people who know about that kind of thing.

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    what if iput an area with substrate and a live plant. does the rest of the cage need substrate? or do i even need substrate in the first plave? its a pain to take out and fill up.

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    The substrate probably would spill out into other areas. I've seen people put a potted plant in a tank though.

    Substrate is generally supposed to make the tank easier to clean. So maybe not as long as you frequently cleaned the bottom of the tank so the frogs weren't sitting in pee. Paper towels can work as a substrate but they grow bacteria easily and need to be changed frequently.

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    so as long as i clean out the bottom i dont need supstrate? ok thanks thats helpful

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    While in theory you might not need substrate, some sort of substrate, even paper towels as elly mentioned make cleanup a lot easier. Without any kind of substrate a standard design would require cleaning almost every day to remove residue to prevent bacteria growth. I find your design very interesting, it would still require cleaning every day or every other day, to avoid buildup of fecal matter and urine residue, since this can allow bacteria to grow.
    Coco fiber can go 2-3 weeks before replacing.
    (Also applies to peat moss, topsoil etc.)
    Paper towels require switching each day, since they allow bacteria to grow rather fast, but are generally easily available and require no special purchases.
    A planted tank with drainage layer or false bottom can go without switching for as long as a year. Maybe more.
    This is why I like making full planted tanks with microfauna(springtails and oppose). They look great and require a low amount of maintenance, but they take a lot of time and effort to set up, Not to mention money and plants. I know it can be a pain to switch out substrates, but substrates are used for a number of reasons. I hate to say it, but I feel like you'd be putting in a lot of work for very little benefits. You'd have to build it, and clean it. I kinda feel like that's more work than the substrate.
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