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    Default Re: Substrate help

    Ah right, sweet. Well I was going to order some plants from that site anyway so can save on postage by ordering the mix at the same time.

    Any suggestions on plants whilst I have your attention? :P

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    Oh, hold on, let me look lol
    1.0.0 Oophaga Pumilio 'Black Jeans'
    0.0.10 Phyllobates Vittatus
    0.0.3 Phyllobates Terribilis 'Mint'
    0.0.3 Dendrobates Tinctorius 'Patricia'
    0.0.5 Dendrobates Leucomelas
    0.0.2 Dendrobates Tinctorius 'Powder Blue'
    0.0.2 Ranitomeya Variabilis 'southern'
    0.0.3 Epipedobates Anthonyi 'zarayunga'
    1.2.0 Phyllobates bicolor
    0.0.3 Dendrobates tinctorius 'azureus'
    0.0.1 Avicularia Avicularia
    0.0.1 Gramastola porteri
    0.2.0 Canines
    1.0.0 Tabby/Maine Coon Mix
    2.1.0 Genetics Experiments
    0.1.0 Bed Bully

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    Man, you can pretty much order anything that they have. They will all do well in a Viv.
    1.0.0 Oophaga Pumilio 'Black Jeans'
    0.0.10 Phyllobates Vittatus
    0.0.3 Phyllobates Terribilis 'Mint'
    0.0.3 Dendrobates Tinctorius 'Patricia'
    0.0.5 Dendrobates Leucomelas
    0.0.2 Dendrobates Tinctorius 'Powder Blue'
    0.0.2 Ranitomeya Variabilis 'southern'
    0.0.3 Epipedobates Anthonyi 'zarayunga'
    1.2.0 Phyllobates bicolor
    0.0.3 Dendrobates tinctorius 'azureus'
    0.0.1 Avicularia Avicularia
    0.0.1 Gramastola porteri
    0.2.0 Canines
    1.0.0 Tabby/Maine Coon Mix
    2.1.0 Genetics Experiments
    0.1.0 Bed Bully

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    Default Re: Substrate help

    Quote Originally Posted by dbizal View Post
    ...I have this site where I can source certain things, is there anything here I could buy? http://www.dartfrog.co.uk/equipment/landscape.html
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    This site has pretty much everything you need. Love those available Excidobates mysteriosus !
    Remember to take care of the enclosure and it will take care of your frog !​

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    Quote Originally Posted by deranged chipmunk View Post
    Man, you can pretty much order anything that they have. They will all do well in a Viv.
    Ah man, I was hoping you would recommend some for the D. leucomelas :P haha.

    Quote Originally Posted by Mentat View Post
    This site has pretty much everything you need !
    Yeah, I just need to know what I am buying first haha. I was looking the other day and was like... I need everything here haha. My Moss from this place is coming tomorrow so will check the quality once it is here

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    Well, the frogs really don't care what plants are in there. But if you wish to encourage breeding, then you want to have one or two bromeliads in there. (Yes, to those who know me, I am actually recommending broms lol) neoregalia species. Just choose a cultivar you like. My personal fav is neoregalia 'Hannibal lechter'. They don't even need soil to grow, you can just attach them to the background or decor and they will love it.
    1.0.0 Oophaga Pumilio 'Black Jeans'
    0.0.10 Phyllobates Vittatus
    0.0.3 Phyllobates Terribilis 'Mint'
    0.0.3 Dendrobates Tinctorius 'Patricia'
    0.0.5 Dendrobates Leucomelas
    0.0.2 Dendrobates Tinctorius 'Powder Blue'
    0.0.2 Ranitomeya Variabilis 'southern'
    0.0.3 Epipedobates Anthonyi 'zarayunga'
    1.2.0 Phyllobates bicolor
    0.0.3 Dendrobates tinctorius 'azureus'
    0.0.1 Avicularia Avicularia
    0.0.1 Gramastola porteri
    0.2.0 Canines
    1.0.0 Tabby/Maine Coon Mix
    2.1.0 Genetics Experiments
    0.1.0 Bed Bully

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    Default Re: Substrate help

    That Hannibal Lecther one is quite nice, but won't those spikes (thorns) be dangerous to the frogs? Also it is only a small Vivarium so not sure a medium sized plant will work in it?

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    No. No spikes. How big
    Is the tank again?
    1.0.0 Oophaga Pumilio 'Black Jeans'
    0.0.10 Phyllobates Vittatus
    0.0.3 Phyllobates Terribilis 'Mint'
    0.0.3 Dendrobates Tinctorius 'Patricia'
    0.0.5 Dendrobates Leucomelas
    0.0.2 Dendrobates Tinctorius 'Powder Blue'
    0.0.2 Ranitomeya Variabilis 'southern'
    0.0.3 Epipedobates Anthonyi 'zarayunga'
    1.2.0 Phyllobates bicolor
    0.0.3 Dendrobates tinctorius 'azureus'
    0.0.1 Avicularia Avicularia
    0.0.1 Gramastola porteri
    0.2.0 Canines
    1.0.0 Tabby/Maine Coon Mix
    2.1.0 Genetics Experiments
    0.1.0 Bed Bully

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    Default Re: Substrate help

    It is the Exo Terra 30x30x45cm, however I have a false bottom and obviously the substrate will shrink the tank a little.

    This is what I have on my 'To Buy' list so far:

    Neoregelia liliputiana
    Neph. fluffy duffy
    Dendrosoil-5L

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    Hold on.....gotta do some math lol
    1.0.0 Oophaga Pumilio 'Black Jeans'
    0.0.10 Phyllobates Vittatus
    0.0.3 Phyllobates Terribilis 'Mint'
    0.0.3 Dendrobates Tinctorius 'Patricia'
    0.0.5 Dendrobates Leucomelas
    0.0.2 Dendrobates Tinctorius 'Powder Blue'
    0.0.2 Ranitomeya Variabilis 'southern'
    0.0.3 Epipedobates Anthonyi 'zarayunga'
    1.2.0 Phyllobates bicolor
    0.0.3 Dendrobates tinctorius 'azureus'
    0.0.1 Avicularia Avicularia
    0.0.1 Gramastola porteri
    0.2.0 Canines
    1.0.0 Tabby/Maine Coon Mix
    2.1.0 Genetics Experiments
    0.1.0 Bed Bully

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    Oh wow, that's a small tank. Yeah, the neo will eventually take up most of the upper part of the tank. The fern will be cool in there. Maybe something like a red fittonia as well on the floor.
    1.0.0 Oophaga Pumilio 'Black Jeans'
    0.0.10 Phyllobates Vittatus
    0.0.3 Phyllobates Terribilis 'Mint'
    0.0.3 Dendrobates Tinctorius 'Patricia'
    0.0.5 Dendrobates Leucomelas
    0.0.2 Dendrobates Tinctorius 'Powder Blue'
    0.0.2 Ranitomeya Variabilis 'southern'
    0.0.3 Epipedobates Anthonyi 'zarayunga'
    1.2.0 Phyllobates bicolor
    0.0.3 Dendrobates tinctorius 'azureus'
    0.0.1 Avicularia Avicularia
    0.0.1 Gramastola porteri
    0.2.0 Canines
    1.0.0 Tabby/Maine Coon Mix
    2.1.0 Genetics Experiments
    0.1.0 Bed Bully

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    Default Re: Substrate help

    Yeah it is tiny. I need a small brom really... Any suggestions from that site?

    How many frogs can I have in that enclosure? I was looking at getting 3.

    Will see replies in the morning, it has gone midnight here lol.

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    Default Re: Substrate help

    Morning all,

    Do you think I shouldn't have the Neo then Bill? Would it be too large? Smaller Broms would be something I would prefer really, like you said it is a small tank - I don't really want it being swamped haha.

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    Default Re: Substrate help

    I believe you are considering leucs.
    Given the opportunity, they enjoy climbing.
    They will like to climb up to the brom.
    So ,one lager one ( if it's your fav) would be fine.
    Do what is pleasing to YOU.
    You want to give them a way to get up to it.
    The will snuggle and share.
    Mine hang over the sides like 'Gumi Bears'

    Remember, be careful of choosing one that has sharp leaf edges.
    They scratch their faces

    Keep in mind......this will NOT be your PDF 1st enclosure !!!!
    Current Collection
    Dendrobates leucomelas - standard morph
    Dendrobates auratus “Costa Rican Green Black"
    Dendrobates auratus "Pena Blanca"
    Dendrobates tinctorius “New River”
    Dendrobates tinctorius "Green Sipaliwini"
    Dendrobates tinctorius “Powder Blue"
    Dendrobates tinctorius "French Guiana Dwarf Cobalt"

    Phyllobates terribilis “Mint”
    Phyllobates terribilis "Orange"
    Phyllobates bicolor "Uraba"

    Oophaga pumilio "Black Jeans"
    Oophaga pumilio "Isla Popa"
    Oophaga pumilio "Bastimentos"
    Oophaga pumilio “Mimbitimbi”
    Oophaga pumilio "Rio Colubre"
    Oophaga pumilio "Red Frog Beach”
    Oophaga pumilio "Rio Branco"
    Oophaga pumilio “Valle del Rey”
    Oophaga pumilio "BriBri"
    Oophaga pumilio "El Dorado"
    Oophaga pumilio "Cristobal"
    Oophaga pumilio "Rambala"

    Oophaga “Vicentei” (blue)

    Oophaga sylvatica "Paru"
    Oophaga sylvatica "Pata Blanca"
    Oophaga histrionica “Redhead”
    Oophaga histrionica "Blue"
    Oophaga lehmanni "Red"
    Oophaga histrionica "Tado"

    Ranitomeya variabilis "Southern"
    Ranitomeya imitator "Varadero"
    Ranitomeya sirensis "Lower Ucayali"
    Ranitomeya vanzolinii

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    Default Re: Substrate help

    I am indeed, I have purchased this Vine thing which I will be covering in moss once I get my lighting system up and running. I will be hand misting for a while first, but need to get this substrate sorted out haha.

    I would rather do what is more pleasing to the frogs rather than myself but if that plant would be fine I will get it.

    I wish I bought a bigger enclosure initially, but we have to start somewhere... Especially if they start to breed I am more than likely wanting to keep them rather than sell them on, but will only do what I can afford at the time and what is better for the frogs.

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