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    Many species and enclosures will benefit from this method of feeding.
    It reduces the possibility of a feeder 'hiding' and dying in the enclosure.
    It's a great way to monitor food intake and ensure frogs are properly supplemented ....on a schedule.
    The supplements remain on the feeder.....longer.

    A feeder bowl takes practice , both for the frogger and the frog.

    There are no ...'actual'... hard fast rules.
    It's really all about what works best for the species of frog that is being fed and what is feeder being used.

    Here are a few ,common sense, pieces of information to keep in mind:

    -start a frog off on a feeder bowl when it's young, if possible---even when they are in quarantine
    -put the feeder bowl in the same spot each day ( yes.. it could be safely suspended for tree frogs, if desired )
    -it must be removable and not a permanent fixture ( just like a soaking dish > should not be a permanent fixture)
    -the feeder bowl need to made from a safe material...ie no metal that will rust...no substances that will leech chemicals overtime
    -it needs to be NEW and have never been used to store something that will poison the frog
    -clean a feeder bowl - daily- in the hottest tap water possible - never use ANY sops or detergents
    -never leave feeders in the bowl(s) in the enclosure - return them to their feeder 'bin' ...to feed
    -it is a matter of opinion as to what material it should be made from ( ie glass, metal, plastic, ceramic etc)
    - a frog doesn't pick up on how to use it right away . They have to learn.
    - yes , sometimes they will try to catch the feeder through glass at first. Most will eventually 'get it', but one needs to be sure this does not continue for too long as this could cause an injury.
    -when the feeder bowl is started ( regardless of the age of the frog ) begin by continuing the usual feeding method(s) so the frog can get used to the magic bowl where the food appears every day !
    -you can have more than one bowl. In fact, there should be more than one if you are housing more than a few frogs in one large enclosure.
    -position matters- consider the species of frog you are feeding (on the soil, sunk in the soil or suspended)
    - some species - should NOT have a feeder bowl...ie dart frogs

    Size of the bowl
    If anything matters ...... it's the size of the bowl ; for a few reasons:
    1- you don't want feeder to get out
    2- you want the frog to be able to get in ( the size/diameter of the opening is an important consideration)
    3- you want the frog to be able to get back out
    4-the size of the bowl should 'change' as a juvenile frogs grows
    5- frogs sharing a bowl .....need space

    So ..............what do you use? Let us know ? Opinions matter

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    Default Re: "feeder bowl"

    I love corning ware. It's not see through, it's pretty and comes in so many sizes for all ages. Plus it has the nice little handles for the frogs to sit, watch and wait their turn. But then I've had all three of them in the dish at the same time. And if it's ground hunters you can sink it into the substrate like I do for the toads.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kueluck View Post
    I love corning ware. It's not see through, it's pretty and comes in so many sizes for all ages. Plus it has the nice little handles for the frogs to sit, watch and wait their turn. But then I've had all three of them in the dish at the same time. And if it's ground hunters you can sink it into the substrate like I do for the toads.
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    Thanks Gail,
    Great reply !
    Thanks for the reminder regarding 'sinking' the bowl for the toads. Position matters.
    Current Collection
    Dendrobates leucomelas - standard morph
    Dendrobates auratus “Costa Rican Green Black"
    Dendrobates auratus "Pena Blanca"
    Dendrobates tinctorius “New River”
    Dendrobates tinctorius "Green Sipaliwini"
    Dendrobates tinctorius “Powder Blue"
    Dendrobates tinctorius "French Guiana Dwarf Cobalt"

    Phyllobates terribilis “Mint”
    Phyllobates terribilis "Orange"
    Phyllobates bicolor "Uraba"

    Oophaga pumilio "Black Jeans"
    Oophaga pumilio "Isla Popa"
    Oophaga pumilio "Bastimentos"
    Oophaga pumilio “Mimbitimbi”
    Oophaga pumilio "Rio Colubre"
    Oophaga pumilio "Red Frog Beach”
    Oophaga pumilio "Rio Branco"
    Oophaga pumilio “Valle del Rey”
    Oophaga pumilio "BriBri"
    Oophaga pumilio "El Dorado"
    Oophaga pumilio "Cristobal"
    Oophaga pumilio "Rambala"

    Oophaga “Vicentei” (blue)

    Oophaga sylvatica "Paru"
    Oophaga sylvatica "Pata Blanca"
    Oophaga histrionica “Redhead”
    Oophaga histrionica "Blue"
    Oophaga lehmanni "Red"
    Oophaga histrionica "Tado"

    Ranitomeya variabilis "Southern"
    Ranitomeya imitator "Varadero"
    Ranitomeya sirensis "Lower Ucayali"
    Ranitomeya vanzolinii

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    Default Re: "feeder bowl"

    We are working on finding a good bowl for our RETF. The last one tried was a Pyrex 1 quart mixing bowl. One of the RETF jumped into the bowl to get a cricket and then scrambled out and kept across the enclosure to swallow. She seem less than pleased that she was in there surrounded by Crickets. :/

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    Quote Originally Posted by DigitalPunk View Post
    We are working on finding a good bowl for our Red-Eyed Leaf Frog. The last one tried was a Pyrex 1 quart mixing bowl. One of the Red-Eyed Leaf Frog jumped into the bowl to get a cricket and then scrambled out and kept across the enclosure to swallow. She seem less than pleased that she was in there surrounded by Crickets. :/
    They will learn to hang out on the inside rim; and plan their attack from there

    Mine do this...then slowly turn and re-position themselves /facing up on the interior rim to swallow.
    That way they are closer and ready to go for the 2nd cricket

    It may take her (?) a little longer to get the hang of it since she is not a froglet.
    She looks to be an adult? .............hard to tell from the photos.

    Maybe a little bit larger bowl / bigger diameter opening?
    Or
    use 2 bowls- side by side ?
    - doesn't have to be round

    Here are mine:

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    The round ones are both 1.75 qt

    The red eye enclosure has two.
    The one with the lower side is there because I have a red eye that is very old.
    I like to make it as easy as possible for him; hes' an old man.

    I can't change now as it's the ONLY way they have ever eaten since I have owned them.
    3 of my 4 red eyes were rescues ( acquired when they were adults---age ? )

    Current Collection
    Dendrobates leucomelas - standard morph
    Dendrobates auratus “Costa Rican Green Black"
    Dendrobates auratus "Pena Blanca"
    Dendrobates tinctorius “New River”
    Dendrobates tinctorius "Green Sipaliwini"
    Dendrobates tinctorius “Powder Blue"
    Dendrobates tinctorius "French Guiana Dwarf Cobalt"

    Phyllobates terribilis “Mint”
    Phyllobates terribilis "Orange"
    Phyllobates bicolor "Uraba"

    Oophaga pumilio "Black Jeans"
    Oophaga pumilio "Isla Popa"
    Oophaga pumilio "Bastimentos"
    Oophaga pumilio “Mimbitimbi”
    Oophaga pumilio "Rio Colubre"
    Oophaga pumilio "Red Frog Beach”
    Oophaga pumilio "Rio Branco"
    Oophaga pumilio “Valle del Rey”
    Oophaga pumilio "BriBri"
    Oophaga pumilio "El Dorado"
    Oophaga pumilio "Cristobal"
    Oophaga pumilio "Rambala"

    Oophaga “Vicentei” (blue)

    Oophaga sylvatica "Paru"
    Oophaga sylvatica "Pata Blanca"
    Oophaga histrionica “Redhead”
    Oophaga histrionica "Blue"
    Oophaga lehmanni "Red"
    Oophaga histrionica "Tado"

    Ranitomeya variabilis "Southern"
    Ranitomeya imitator "Varadero"
    Ranitomeya sirensis "Lower Ucayali"
    Ranitomeya vanzolinii

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    Thanks for thread Lynn ! Why it's recommended Darts don't use feeder bowls?
    Remember to take care of the enclosure and it will take care of your frog !​

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mentat View Post
    Thanks for thread Lynn ! Why it's recommended Darts don't use feeder bowls?
    Well I suppose you could try...if it's a feeder that will not climb out ?

    MY FF will not cooperate !

    I drop the FF in a feeding 'spot' in the dart enclosures.
    My terribilis hang out in this area to hunt.
    All of the other species come 'out' when I have fed them. It seems they migrate to the spot where the flies are, only because of the movement.
    In fact, they back off until the FF disperse--
    - it stresses them out at first if they are too close w/ too many around them
    This is the same spot I might bury a small pc of green zucchini into the substrate for the isopods.

    I tried pin head cricks a little bowl---no go.
    Better off putting a tiny pc of banana in --- the left over FF will migrate there ( to the feeding spot) to eat it!
    Then everybody benefits

    Feeders do not last very long in the PDF enclosure!

    My imis - rarely come to the ground to eat. They eat the FF that are climbing on the vines and branches..
    ( They are tree frog wannabees )

    I need to set up another --separate cricket bin for the terribilis. I will not use the crickets from the tree frog bins as they cricks are returned to the bins after spending the night in the enclosure in the bowl. It's would be an 'open invitation ' to spread an illness form one enclosure to another. IMO

    Lynn
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    Dendrobates leucomelas - standard morph
    Dendrobates auratus “Costa Rican Green Black"
    Dendrobates auratus "Pena Blanca"
    Dendrobates tinctorius “New River”
    Dendrobates tinctorius "Green Sipaliwini"
    Dendrobates tinctorius “Powder Blue"
    Dendrobates tinctorius "French Guiana Dwarf Cobalt"

    Phyllobates terribilis “Mint”
    Phyllobates terribilis "Orange"
    Phyllobates bicolor "Uraba"

    Oophaga pumilio "Black Jeans"
    Oophaga pumilio "Isla Popa"
    Oophaga pumilio "Bastimentos"
    Oophaga pumilio “Mimbitimbi”
    Oophaga pumilio "Rio Colubre"
    Oophaga pumilio "Red Frog Beach”
    Oophaga pumilio "Rio Branco"
    Oophaga pumilio “Valle del Rey”
    Oophaga pumilio "BriBri"
    Oophaga pumilio "El Dorado"
    Oophaga pumilio "Cristobal"
    Oophaga pumilio "Rambala"

    Oophaga “Vicentei” (blue)

    Oophaga sylvatica "Paru"
    Oophaga sylvatica "Pata Blanca"
    Oophaga histrionica “Redhead”
    Oophaga histrionica "Blue"
    Oophaga lehmanni "Red"
    Oophaga histrionica "Tado"

    Ranitomeya variabilis "Southern"
    Ranitomeya imitator "Varadero"
    Ranitomeya sirensis "Lower Ucayali"
    Ranitomeya vanzolinii

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    My guess would be because fruit flies can climb glass.
    Quote Originally Posted by Mentat View Post
    Thanks for thread Lynn ! Why it's recommended Darts don't use feeder bowls?
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    Default Re: "feeder bowl"

    Not to get off the subject, but as for putting things in the viv for free roaming feeders or the cleaning crew, I use Repashy bug burger. Everything seems to LOVE this stuff and when you read the ingredients you'll be tempted to try it yourself.
    Quote Originally Posted by flybyferns View Post
    Well I suppose you could try...if it's a feeder that will not climb out ?

    MY FF will not cooperate !

    I drop the FF in a feeding 'spot' in the dart enclosures.
    My terribilis hang out in this area to hunt.
    All of the other species come 'out' when I have fed them. It seems they migrate to the spot where the flies are, only because of the movement.
    In fact, they back off until the FF disperse--
    - it stresses them out at first if they are too close w/ too many around them
    This is the same spot I might bury a small pc of green zucchini into the substrate for the isopods.

    I tried pin head cricks a little bowl---no go.
    Better off putting a tiny pc of banana in --- the left over FF will migrate there ( to the feeding spot) to eat it!
    Then everybody benefits

    Feeders do not last very long in the PDF enclosure!

    My imis - rarely come to the ground to eat. They eat the FF that are climbing on the vines and branches..
    ( They are tree frog wannabees )

    I need to set up another --separate cricket bin for the terribilis. I will not use the crickets from the tree frog bins as they cricks are returned to the bins after spending the night in the enclosure in the bowl. It's would be an 'open invitation ' to spread an illness form one enclosure to another. IMO

    Lynn
    Rest in peace Rosie 5-31-12
    Rest in peace Rufus 2-7-14
    Rest in peace Morph 8-14-15


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    Default Re: "feeder bowl"

    Adding a rock helped our AGTF work it out the first time, now he doesn't need the rock anymore



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