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    Hello, I have two whites tree frogs and want to update their tank (or make them a new one). I am not too inthralled with buying expensive plants. I would LOVE to be able to use some plants from Fred Meyers, because they're a lot cheaper for "more plant". I already have an umbrella plant from FM's, but I just don't want to take any more risks.
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    i would love to offer some advice, but i am not sure if there is a question here???
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    My question was: Is it safe to put store-bought plants in my frog vivarium? Thats all my question was, though I already read another forum about this. I think Ill just gets my plants at josh's frogs.

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    IMO---ANY plant ( regardless of where you purchase it) needs to be disinfected and put through
    'a waiting period'

    Here is my method:
    Remove from the existing pot
    Remove all existing soil from the plant's roots
    Dip the plant into a big bucket of tap water w/ a cap full of bleach
    Submerse the entire plant

    Rinse Rinse Rinse Rinse Rinse Rinse

    Then do a final rinse in a big bucket of tap water and de-chlorinator! Again, fully submerse the plant

    Re-pot in to clean containers ( cleaned the same way if re-using what they came in)
    Re-pot with ABG. (completely break-up the sphagnum moss that is in the ABG and remove any big sticks of tree fern fiber)
    -The sphagnum can cause intestinal impaction if a pc is accidentally swallowed
    -The sticks of tree fern fiber can cause and eye injury .
    -It's not a big deal tho modify the ABG -- and the plants will do really well

    Sooooooooooo ,personally, if a plant does not survive my cleaning....then it does not go into my frog enclosures. The waiting period can include planting into a new enclosure ( that is cycling ) without any frogs in it

    Wait about 2 weeks ---to let the bad stuff grow out.

    If you need to skip the bleach dip...then completely remove all the soil---run under tap water, re-pot,
    and WAIT - a really long time.

    For a whites- when you plant into the enclosure ---- you will want to cover the ABG with a final covering of tropical soil.

    BTW
    There are 2 species of umbrella plants:
    Eriogonum umbrellum
    *Schefflera actinophylla

    It is my understanding that *Schefflera actinophylla should NOT be used as it is toxic if the leaves are ingested

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    Current Collection
    Dendrobates leucomelas - standard morph
    Dendrobates auratus “Costa Rican Green Black"
    Dendrobates auratus "Pena Blanca"
    Dendrobates tinctorius “New River”
    Dendrobates tinctorius "Green Sipaliwini"
    Dendrobates tinctorius “Powder Blue"
    Dendrobates tinctorius "French Guiana Dwarf Cobalt"

    Phyllobates terribilis “Mint”
    Phyllobates terribilis "Orange"
    Phyllobates bicolor "Uraba"

    Oophaga pumilio "Black Jeans"
    Oophaga pumilio "Isla Popa"
    Oophaga pumilio "Bastimentos"
    Oophaga pumilio “Mimbitimbi”
    Oophaga pumilio "Rio Colubre"
    Oophaga pumilio "Red Frog Beach”
    Oophaga pumilio "Rio Branco"
    Oophaga pumilio “Valle del Rey”
    Oophaga pumilio "BriBri"
    Oophaga pumilio "El Dorado"
    Oophaga pumilio "Cristobal"
    Oophaga pumilio "Rambala"

    Oophaga “Vicentei” (blue)

    Oophaga sylvatica "Paru"
    Oophaga sylvatica "Pata Blanca"
    Oophaga histrionica “Redhead”
    Oophaga histrionica "Blue"
    Oophaga lehmanni "Red"
    Oophaga histrionica "Tado"

    Ranitomeya variabilis "Southern"
    Ranitomeya imitator "Varadero"
    Ranitomeya sirensis "Lower Ucayali"
    Ranitomeya vanzolinii

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    Lynn's got you covered on the cleaning routine.

    Some great tree frog plants are broad leafed plants, such as:

    Pothos / Epipremnu aureum
    http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Epipremnum_aureum






    Chinese Evergreens / Aglaonema
    http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aglaonema







    (One of my favorites due to the red/pink varieties)



    Philodendrons
    (Use the broad leaf variations)
    http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Philodendron






    They look frail in these Internet photos, but if proper lighting and ABG mix are used to plant in, they grow strong. (I also use a secret trick of pushing a frog poo or two down into the plant soil weekly for some fertilizer, along with a few springtails in the mix to keep things in balance ).





    I have red eyes, but you can see how they enjoy sleeping on the undersides of the leaves.

    And on the tops near the stems where the leaves are strongest.

    Hope this helps .
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    Thanks for all of these pictures and advice! Just today I bought some plants and moss off of josh's frog...so should I disinfect them even if they specify non toxic? Oh also I know that I have Schefflera Actinophylla but I think it's safe cause I've researched A TON about this plant, cause I LOVED it sooo much! And I didn't know that I needed any ABG, so thanks for the advice!!





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    Im not sure about that one, but Deranged Chipmunk woukd know. Joshsfrogs is safe. Just give them a nice rinse in dechlorinated water. ABG is not a must, but your plants will love it. There are no nutrients in coconut fiber.

    You're welcome .
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    About disinfecting the plants? I know Josh's grows them without pesticides, so a thorough rinse should be sufficient.

    And far as toxicity, a large majority of tropical plants are indeed toxic, if ingested. Since frogs are insectivores, you can worry less about it.
    1.0.0 Oophaga Pumilio 'Black Jeans'
    0.0.10 Phyllobates Vittatus
    0.0.3 Phyllobates Terribilis 'Mint'
    0.0.3 Dendrobates Tinctorius 'Patricia'
    0.0.5 Dendrobates Leucomelas
    0.0.2 Dendrobates Tinctorius 'Powder Blue'
    0.0.2 Ranitomeya Variabilis 'southern'
    0.0.3 Epipedobates Anthonyi 'zarayunga'
    1.2.0 Phyllobates bicolor
    0.0.3 Dendrobates tinctorius 'azureus'
    0.0.1 Avicularia Avicularia
    0.0.1 Gramastola porteri
    0.2.0 Canines
    1.0.0 Tabby/Maine Coon Mix
    2.1.0 Genetics Experiments
    0.1.0 Bed Bully

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    Quote Originally Posted by deranged chipmunk View Post
    About disinfecting the plants? I know Josh's grows them without pesticides, so a thorough rinse should be sufficient.

    And far as toxicity, a large majority of tropical plants are indeed toxic, if ingested. Since frogs are insectivores, you can worry less about it.
    Thanks Bill .
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