Phyllomedusa sauvagii - sexing

[earthtiger]

Hi,

there are theories, that Phyllomedusa sauvagii can be sexed by the shape of the nose/snout. For the ones who are familiar with this method: I this frog a male or a female?




kind regards,
Martin

[flybyferns]

Hello Martin,
Hope all is well.

I this a guessing game ?

I don't keep these but I'll throw out a guess that this is male (based on the very little I know )
I can't see the front of it's face, so I'm going by the angle/ shape of the face below the nostrils. ( shorter, straighter ? )
It's hard when there are not 2 side by side. Let me know

BEAUTIFUL FROG !!!
You have kept these for a while, yes ?

Lynn

[earthtiger]

Hi Lynn,

it is not a game, I really want to know which gender my Phyllomedusa sauvagii have. I got 5 specimens this spring as froglets / juveniles. Now I want to know their sexes. I have still difficulties to sex by the shape of the nose (>>click here<<). With some specimens, it is very obvious to me, with others I really have trouble. The one in the photo above, I hope it to be a female. It is the biggest of the group (6,5+ cm) and slightly bigger as and adult male I got at the same time and which hasn't grown much. And no nuptial pads so far - but I keep them dry. But it is just a guess and it also can be just a big male. Do you need a photo from the front?

kind regards,
Martin

[earthtiger]

Hi,

this is a 100% male:

[Mentat]

Gorgeous healthy looking frogs !

[flybyferns]

I'm going to stick w/ saying ...male.

Martin, good luck w/ mating them!
Please keep us posted.
Lynn

[earthtiger]

I'm going to stick w/ saying ...male.

Martin, good luck w/ mating them!

if these two are indeed two males ...mating them might be difficult! =;-)

...but last weekend, I got a female - resp. I was told it is a female.

[flybyferns]

Yes, that would be difficult indeed.
I thought you were referring to the 5 that you got in the spring........ in post # 3

They are beautiful frogs !
Good luck

[earthtiger]

Hi,

last Saturday I got this one labeled as female and for me, it looks like a female. Unfortunately a WC one. A bit skinny and a open wound on the lower side of her left food (probably kept to humid or with wrong branches to sit on), but I'll work on it.




kind regards,
Martin

[flybyferns]

# 7 ..........looks like a female to me
# 1 ...I still say male

Lynn

[earthtiger]

Hi,


any ideas / educated guesses, which gender specimen #3 has:







kind regards
Martin

[Lija]

How exactly did i miss this thread? lol

Which frogs are still in question exactly since it is old thread.
1. 100% female
2 male,
7 100% male
3 i would like more pic and to know what size it is. Based on that pic alone i would say female with 80% certainty.

To summarize - im jealous big time!

[earthtiger]

Hi,

Lija, thanks for your input!

• #1: 100% female, I agree - it is my biggest and fattest (see photo below)
• #2: 100% male - nuptial pads => 100% male
• #7: I would say female - it was one of my biggest. Unfortunately I got it with a wound at one of her hint legs. She didn't eat well. The wound didn't heal. Every day some liquid oozed out of the wound and a couple of weeks later it died.
• #3: I tend to female too, but aren't sure. I will post some more photos in the next days.

Beginning of May I finally removed my P. sauvagii from their "wintering grounds" in the cellar and started to feed them heavily. They are showing a tremendous appetite right now and eat me out of house and home - and themselves round bellies.

#3 is in the middle of the photo, #1 the fat girl on the right.




kind regards,
Martin

[Lija]

What are u feeding them on? Lol fatties

i would insist on 7 being a male though. Some frogs you are not sure and need more info, but that particular one, no mistakes on his profile line, he couldn't have been a female, he was jUst a big male. I had one of these, he was almost as big as a female i had at that time. Absence of nuptial pads is not reliable as they appear only when they are in mood

I dont have much experience in other tree frogs, but i have seen similar differences in profile line in others, i wonder if possible to sex others this way or it applies only to waxies.

[earthtiger]

What are u feeding them on? Lol fatties

Their stable food are roaches (Blaptica dubia). Mainly medium sized ones but they also manage to swallow subadult specimens and adult males. Additionally I feed crickets (Gryllus assimilis and Acheta domestics).

[earthtiger]

Hi,

specimen #1 again (my biggest one):

[earthtiger]

3 i would like more pic and to know what size it is. Based on that pic alone i would say female with 80% certainty.

Here they are:







...any other photos needed? From other angles?

[Lija]

Nope, that is a female.

[earthtiger]

Thank you!!

...ok, next one: #4

[Lija]

That one is easy - girl!