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    Default Ornate a little swollen not eating and barely pooping

    I fed my 1 1/2 month old baby ornate a whole nightcrawler last Friday night and he hasn't eaten since. He appears to be swollen and he has barely pooped since Thursday. I fed him a whole night crawler also the Monday before and he pooped him out just fine. I'm just wondering if there is anything I should do? I keep him on a good dusting schedule with calcium + d3: 3x times a week and multivitamin once a week

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    Default Re: Ornate a little swollen not eating and barely pooping

    Quote Originally Posted by dth0829 View Post
    I fed my 1 1/2 month old baby ornate a whole nightcrawler last Friday night and he hasn't eaten since. He appears to be swollen and he has barely pooped since Thursday. I fed him a whole night crawler also the Monday before and he pooped him out just fine. I'm just wondering if there is anything I should do? I keep him on a good dusting schedule with calcium + d3: 3x times a week and multivitamin once a week
    Answer these questions http://www.frogforum.net/pacman-frog...enclosure.html and repost your answers here in this thread.


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    Default Re: Ornate a little swollen not eating and barely pooping

    1. 18x18x12 Exo Terra

    2. 1 ornate pacman

    3. 80% humidity

    4. 83 degrees during the day and 79 degrees at night. I use a reptifogger on a hygrotherm

    5. changed everyday, and I use reptisafe

    6. Coco Fiber substrate

    7. 2 artificial plants

    8. mostly feed crickets, but have fed two whole nightcrawlers within a week

    9. Calcium+d3 3x a week, Multivitamin once a week

    10. 40 watt red reptile bulb for heat on a hygrotherm, 40 daylight fluorescent on a timer

    11. Heating pad mounted on the side of the enclosure and a 40 watt red bulb

    12. Last time my ornate ate was 3 days ago

    13. a tiny bit of poop this morning but still not the usual amount

    15. Frog is a 1 1/2 month old

    16. a little over a month

    17. captive bred

    18. large crickets usually 2 a day, and last week he was fed a whole nightcrawler on monday then on friday

    19. never handled

    20.low traffic

    21. water changes everyday, i'll replace the substrate next week since it has been a month

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    Is that fluorescent UVB daylight? I think that's usually not recommended. The UV rays are bad for the frog I think. I am sure someone else will be along with a more definitive answer on that for you. I think everything else sounded OK.


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    How big is he?

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    1. That's size enclosure is for an adult. At 1.5 months your frog should be in some sort of critter keeper. At three inches SVL you can upgrade to a 10 gallon or equivalent. At adulthood you can move to the 18x18. As always make sure three side are covered.
    8. Nightcrawlers are the best food as a staple. The pieces you were offering were too big. You can offer pieces that are the length of the frog, but I recommend half the length of the frog. Feed all it will eat till it doesn't want any more.
    10. Remove the floresent bulb and get a energy saving white house bulb. Nothing over 50 watts.
    We need some pictures. Those nightcrawlers are a huge meal for your frog and might need more time to digest. Please do the corrections and see if that helps.

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    Default Re: Ornate a little swollen not eating and barely pooping

    Dan is spot on, i wouldn't worry too much about UVB for ornate though, as long as it is dim it is all right, if it is albino then it would be a different story. tank is huge for such a tiny baby, as well at that size the whole nightcrawler is too big, once it is in a mouth he'll eat it all, he can or can't, he can't spit it out, when you cut in chunks ( 1" or bit bigger) a frog can control how much he can eat. i don"t think there is anything to worry about, but would love to see pic, for one to make sure all is good and also we love pictures of a pretty frogs
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    Default Re: Ornate a little swollen not eating and barely pooping

    Quote Originally Posted by mpmackenna View Post
    Is that fluorescent UVB daylight? I think that's usually not recommended. The UV rays are bad for the frog I think.
    That is for an albino.

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    [QUOTE=Truffs1178;198558]That is for an albino.[/QUOTE

    UV radiation is not necessary for any, but is dangerous for Albinos.


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    Default Re: Ornate a little swollen not eating and barely pooping

    Quote Originally Posted by GrifTheGreat View Post
    UV radiation is not necessary for any, but is dangerous for Albinos.
    I know, that's what I meant.

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    Default Ornate a little swollen not eating and barely pooping

    Thanks everyone for your help, but I'm still concerned with the hard knot on his right side.

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    Default Re: Ornate a little swollen not eating and barely pooping

    Quote Originally Posted by dth0829 View Post
    Thanks everyone for your help, but I'm still concerned with the hard knot on his right side.
    The Benjamin Franklin axiom “an ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure” applies not only to fire safety but also to keeping our frogs. A month ago we recommended a smaller enclosure for your frog. We also recommend earthworms sized same as frog's length and crickets same as distance between frog's eyes. Those where the "preventions" that could have avoided needing the following cure.

    In a small critter keeper or small clean container with holes in top; prepare a solution of 80F dechlorinated water with couple drops of honey to frog's chin. Bath frog in it for at least 20 minutes or until frog poops. After frog poops or at end of bath time replace bath with 80F dechlorinated water for another 20 minutes "rinse." If frog poops remove and place back in his enclosure bath. If it doesn't after 20 min; place back in enclosure and repeat every day until frog poops. Good luck !
    Remember to take care of the enclosure and it will take care of your frog !​

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    Default Re: Ornate a little swollen not eating and barely pooping

    Carlos has covered what you need to do to help your frog and the others have provided good advice. I suggest that it is followed.


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    I appreciate the help from all. I sense a little hostility though in some of the comments. I would like to put it out there that I have done nothing but care very dearly for my pacman and I have tried to properly care for him/her in every way. I believe the info I provided shows this. Nevertheless, here is a pic of how he is living now until he is bigger. Thanks!
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    Looks like impaction....but everyone got your covered already!

    Do the honey bath Carlos suggested, it works like a CHARM!

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