Sex this Pixie Please

[GrifTheGreat]

I believe the only true indicator between it being P. Edulis and P. Angusticeps would be (like Grif brought up) width of the odontoids in comparison to height.

I am not exactly sure why so many get confused between Giants and Smaller species except those without prior knowlege. They used the odontoids to differentiate adspersus from angusticeps so my first thought is that the two look very similar only one is larger and has a few defining features. Many other species are called Dwarfs even if they are not the true edulis. This is part of what can be very confusing.

[SCF]

You're right, I had to re-read that. The new genus updates are a good cause for confusion.

[GrifTheGreat]

You're right, I had to re-read that. The new genus updates are a good cause for confusion.

The people capturing the frogs from the wild don't know for sure what they're getting because the Giant African Bullfrog is called the Giant Bullfrog and the Dwarf is just called African Bullfrog in Africa. There is also obbianus which I have no idea what it looks like.

[Lija]

well, simply speaking giants are giants, no doubt about it, bluish on a legs, green lines on a back. whatever is not giant is dwarf lol that is how it used to be, but now with that new species it got all mixed up. brown coloring, yellow lines on a back is edulis, angusticeps looks like giant, but doesn't have blue as well as doesn't have "eye brow" like giants, their eyes look rounder in comparison.
that is my understanding, do i need some more coffee?

[GrifTheGreat]

Lol! Eddy do not attempt to open his mouth. It will stress him out and you may be bitten which by the way can be painful.

[Lija]

agree with Grif, you don't want to take a picture of his odontoids lol
edit, Grif it can be painful? lol why CAN but not WILL? lol

[GrifTheGreat]

Wait for him to shed his skin like SCF suggested or after he eats something he will work muscles in his mouth and throat while swallowing and expelling air from his stomach by opening and closing his mouth. It will look as if he is yawning. This is another good oportunity to see his odontoids.

[GrifTheGreat]

agree with Grif, you don't want to take a picture of his odontoids lol
edit, Grif it can be painful? lol why CAN but not WILL? lol

There is always a chance the frog won't get a good bite. Unlikely, but a chance Lol!

[Mentat]

Hello and welcome to FF Eddie! Find sex my Pixie threads interesting because they sometimes have disagreement not only on the sex but on the species .

Well, your frog is not P. adspersus (guess everybody agrees on that so far) so it was mislabeled by seller. Thanks for your good pictures and do have a question; how long is your frog from snout to vent (SVL). Reason I'm asking is, because pics matches well a male frog Vosjoli mentions in his book as a Pyxicephalus sp. "dwarf" to differentiate from P. edulis. They look close to a P. edulis but males have a distinct bright yellow throat. This is a smaller frog with females reaching 3.5 in. and males around an in. more (hence me asking frogs size).

If your frog is bigger than that, then it's probably P. angusticeps. Do not recommend forcing mouth open to verify. SCF suggestion to wait until next shed is good. Maybe get lucky with flashlight or camera flash and get to see them. Your frog is a nice specimen and looks very healthy, congrats !

[Eddy22]

It's exactly 4" from snout to vent. It hasn't croaked but dose make a hissing sound if that helps. You guys are awesome! Thanks for all the information as I have a lot to learn. Look forward to hearing more.

[Mentat]

It's exactly 4" from snout to vent. It hasn't croaked but dose make a hissing sound if that helps. You guys are awesome! Thanks for all the information as I have a lot to learn. Look forward to hearing more.

Based on 4 in. length will go with male Pyxicephalus sp. "dwarf." If it passes 5 in. or you have chance to verify odontoids shape, then that might be incorrect. Good luck !

[Lija]

hissing sound? lol no you def don't want to take any pics of his odontoids right now lol

Carlos are you going with edulis male?