quick worm question

[danfrog]

I feed my Mojo earthworms as my staple food. Now Mojo won't take from tweezers or my hand. I have to drop the worm in front of him and then he gobbles it up. However I'm worried about Mojo eating small pieces of eco earth. How do the pros feed thier frogs worms?

[danfrog]

Forgot to put this in thier. I notice small pieces of eco earth stuck to the worm when he eats it. I also saw a few pieces in his tongue. Anything to worry about or should I my feeding habits.

[SCF]

I feed my Mojo earthworms as my staple food. Now Mojo won't take from tweezers or my hand. I have to drop the worm in front of him and then he gobbles it up. However I'm worried about Mojo eating small pieces of eco earth. How do the pros feed thier frogs worms?

I feed them when the frog is in it's water bowl.

[SCF]

Forgot to put this in thier. I notice small pieces of eco earth stuck to the worm when he eats it. I also saw a few pieces in his tongue. Anything to worry about or should I my feeding habits.

Little bits of eco earth will not hurt your frog. I prefer putting them in the water bowl, because it makes the earthworms go nuts, and I normally get a good feeding response. This is with pyxies though, as I do not own a pacman........yet.

[danfrog]

How does that effect the dusting on the worms?

[SCF]

I typically do not dust earthworms due to this feeding method. I will dust other feeders on separate days.

[MatthewM1]

Ime calcium dust sticks really well to nightcrawlers and multivitamin powder gets slimy and weird when mixed with their slimy coating

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[Louis Charles Bruckner]

Edit: ON topic, it is perfectly normal for the frog to get some of the eco earth with it prey.
Mine gets a mouth full some times and it's poo is almost all eco earth LOL




Well being that I have access to medical supplies I go about administering extra vitamins and calcium via worms a bit differently.

I mix the supplement very well with distilled water and use a syringe and needle to inject into the feeder.
Night crawlers work the best.
This way the frog doesn't get a mouth full of powder that might not taste too good.

[Mentat]

A bit of EcoEarth is not going to hurt your frog. Mine eats it all the time with it's worms .

[danfrog]

Hmm that's very interesting.

[danfrog]

What are those nasty worms that frogs don't like when the worms slime them?

[GrifTheGreat]

What are those nasty worms that frogs don't like when the worms slime them?

Those are a type of composting worm. Sold as Red Wigglers they secrete a kind of toxin that is foul tasting and has a foul odor. Used to deter animals from eating them. Now frogs are not affected by the toxin other than smell and taste, but the worms only secrete it when injured or they feel threatened. As long as you don't cut them and rinse them off with dechlorinated water pror to offering them the frog can eat them and have no ill effects.

They are poisonous to some other animals such as Garter Snakes, but even Night Crawlers are bad for them.

[yoshimi]

I dust earthworms with calcium, but reptivite really doesn't work well. It seems to kill mine. Shaking them up in the powder gets them all wiggling around, then i put it on a plastic plate. Works great, tho a little bit of ecoearth that they may bring onto the plate with them and maybe swallow will just be passed in the poop, nothing to worry about.

[danfrog]

Yeah I think my Mojo got slimed by the worm he had yesterday. He kept on wiping his mouth and there was some slimy stuff that came out of his mouth. I put him in his water dish so he could get the slime off easier. He got the slime off then hopped back to his hole. I couldn't get him to take anymore worms. He just slaps them away. Im going to pick up some large nightcrawlers after work today.

[Louis Charles Bruckner]

If you start night crawlers I would do pieces slightly larger than the space in between Mojos eyes.
Use a good pair of scissors to quickly snip the worm. Also if you snip the pice form the end of the worm
it will heal and not die. When you pick one up and rinse it off and observe it you will see a portion of it that is not quite half way
that is a bit thicker and a different texture from the rest of the worm. This area has the worms hearts. The area that is shorter after the heart is the head. Do not cut from that end. The area that is longer behind the heart is the rest of the body of the worm.
and it will be slightly more pointy than the head. This is the area where to cut from. I don't think it will grow back but it won't kill the worm.

[Louis Charles Bruckner]

Here is the reason Reptovite doesn't mix well with worms.
This is a partial list of minerals that is in Reptovite.

Guaranteed Analysis

Moisture & Minerals: % or PPM Per kg Moisture (max) 2.5 % Calcium (min) 24.9 % 249,000 mg Calcium (max) 28.0 % 280,000 mg Phosphorus (min) 10.6 % 105,730 mg Salt (min) 4.2 % 42,000 mg Salt (max) 4.9 % 49,000 mg Potassium (min) 1.7 % 17,621 mg Magnesium (min) 0.26 % 2670 mg Fluorine (max) Â 0.01 % 100 mg Iron (min) 450 ppm 450 mg Copper (min) 225 ppm 225 mg Manganese (min) 1000 ppm 1000 mg Zinc (min) 450 ppm 450 mg Iodine (min) 2.15 ppm 2.15 mg Salt will make worms go nuts and kill them.

I dust earthworms with calcium, but reptivite really doesn't work well. It seems to kill mine..

[danfrog]

Just got some jumbo crickets for the vitaman dust and im gut loading them right now. I hope Mojo will take them. He isn't the greatest eater. The pet store I got him from said they had just started him on pinkies. But Mojo isn't due for another pinkie till the end of July. He gobbles pinkies up quick.

[yoshimi]

Here is the reason Reptovite doesn't mix well with worms.
This is a partial list of minerals that is in Reptovite.

Guaranteed Analysis

Moisture & Minerals: % or PPM Per kg Moisture (max) 2.5 % Calcium (min) 24.9 % 249,000 mg Calcium (max) 28.0 % 280,000 mg Phosphorus (min) 10.6 % 105,730 mg Salt (min) 4.2 % 42,000 mg Salt (max) 4.9 % 49,000 mg Potassium (min) 1.7 % 17,621 mg Magnesium (min) 0.26 % 2670 mg Fluorine (max) Â 0.01 % 100 mg Iron (min) 450 ppm 450 mg Copper (min) 225 ppm 225 mg Manganese (min) 1000 ppm 1000 mg Zinc (min) 450 ppm 450 mg Iodine (min) 2.15 ppm 2.15 mg Salt will make worms go nuts and kill them.

dude! thank you! i've been wondering about that for the longest time. i just gave up after 2 or 3 tries and figured they were packed with good stuff anyway.

[yoshimi]

Just got some jumbo crickets for the vitaman dust and im gut loading them right now. I hope Mojo will take them. He isn't the greatest eater. The pet store I got him from said they had just started him on pinkies. But Mojo isn't due for another pinkie till the end of July. He gobbles pinkies up quick.

Walmart's fishing sections have cups of worms for $3 packed in peat moss. I get the 30 european nightcrawlers but they also have Canadian, which are bigger, but only 18 in a cup. If I had a pacman, (i don't, but the worm topic brought me over there, as i had the same question months ago), I'd try that water method. Sounds like fun. I'm sure he'll take worms again after a while... Banjo had some bad ones I think and didn't want them for a week or so. She saw it and got scared and peed, then ate it anyway. Now she loves them again. Go figure. And crickets are the 1st thing that really caught her attention when I 1st got her and she was stressed and not really eating. Cheap compared to all the other bugs I ordered that she ignored. Frogs love chasing them, but I'm no good at it. If they end up drowning and/or washing their supplements off by jumping into the water, or you're still worried about too much dirt ingestion, try a smooth-sided bowl they can't climb out of. I keep suggesting this for people, but metal cat food bowls (the deep one, only $1 again at walmart) would work for a few large crickets. They probably have a larger one in dog aisle. Place him next to it and he'll probably eat em up while they're trying to climb out. Crickets aren't very bright, and all the extra movement from reflections might help get his attention.

*never mind, maybe that's just pyxies that the water method works with. worth a shot tho (maybe?), as long as the water isn't too warm.