Hi there! Im planning to buy a Ranitomeya but I wanna do things well. First buy the correct terrarium and then decore it.
I got an offer of an Exo Terra terrarium 60cm length x 45 cmx45 (high). Is it good for these frogs? I know height is the most important thing for tree frogs but I dont know for Ranitomeya imitator. I have read posts here telling about 10 gallons vertical enclosures (45cm of height). So, although my terrarium is longer than high, i guess it would be ok , wouldnt?
Another question is about ventilation because its of Exo Terra, but i think i can put on saran-wrap, not?
Thnks people!
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HI guilletto,
I believe it is the very minimum height needed.
I would go w/ 24" high........ if you can?
Remember--- after substrate ( that takes up say 5-6 inches ), then the background ? , then the plants.
(all taking up their 'space')
I have mine in a 24"h . I can't imagine them in an 18" ( 45 cm high )
They really love to climb . Mine use the entire enclosure.
Lynn
Current Collection
Dendrobates leucomelas - standard morph
Dendrobates auratus “Costa Rican Green Black"
Dendrobates auratus "Pena Blanca"
Dendrobates tinctorius “New River”
Dendrobates tinctorius "Green Sipaliwini"
Dendrobates tinctorius “Powder Blue"
Dendrobates tinctorius "French Guiana Dwarf Cobalt"
Phyllobates terribilis “Mint”
Phyllobates terribilis "Orange"
Phyllobates bicolor "Uraba"
Oophaga pumilio "Black Jeans"
Oophaga pumilio "Isla Popa"
Oophaga pumilio "Bastimentos"
Oophaga pumilio “Mimbitimbi”
Oophaga pumilio "Rio Colubre"
Oophaga pumilio "Red Frog Beach”
Oophaga pumilio "Rio Branco"
Oophaga pumilio “Valle del Rey”
Oophaga pumilio "BriBri"
Oophaga pumilio "El Dorado"
Oophaga pumilio "Cristobal"
Oophaga pumilio "Rambala"
Oophaga “Vicentei” (blue)
Oophaga sylvatica "Paru"
Oophaga sylvatica "Pata Blanca"
Oophaga histrionica “Redhead”
Oophaga histrionica "Blue"
Oophaga lehmanni "Red"
Oophaga histrionica "Tado"
Ranitomeya variabilis "Southern"
Ranitomeya imitator "Varadero"
Ranitomeya sirensis "Lower Ucayali"
Ranitomeya vanzolinii
http://www.fernsfrogs.com
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Hi
Nice finds !
I'm answering your PM questions here so all can chime in
I would most definitely go with the 60 cm high.
I have my (5) leucs in a 90cm wide - they love it!
I would not worry about the size of the enclosure. More fun ! It would have enough room to house more than one pair ( same s. I have 2 breeding pr of R imitator "varadero" in a 45cm x45cm x60cm. I have never seen any sign of aggression-- Both pair are breeding as there is plenty of room and a billion places for them to sneak off to.
As for the accessories--- just be certain they are in working order as I'm sure you are paying a lot ........or the extra stuff.
Make sure it's a misting system and not equipment that was used for a rain chamber? A misting system is really something you should have in these size tanks for darts- otherwise you'll get arthritis
Fogger? don't know ?......Keep in mind --- these little guys are escape artists ! Every opening that is made in the top has to be done very carefully. Otherwise they WILL get out !
I have all my darts in exo's--- ALL of the screens have been removed and replaced with glass. I suppose you could cover the screen with plexi ( cut to fit).
However when it's covered ---it rusts. I have rust on the screen tops of my tree frogs enclosures
The lower /back ( of my dart exo's) are drilled for automatic draining. I use mist system in all ( mist King) / no fogger.
The drilled / draining automatically - is SUPER ! I can't imagine them not drilled.
Hope this helps
Lynn
Current Collection
Dendrobates leucomelas - standard morph
Dendrobates auratus “Costa Rican Green Black"
Dendrobates auratus "Pena Blanca"
Dendrobates tinctorius “New River”
Dendrobates tinctorius "Green Sipaliwini"
Dendrobates tinctorius “Powder Blue"
Dendrobates tinctorius "French Guiana Dwarf Cobalt"
Phyllobates terribilis “Mint”
Phyllobates terribilis "Orange"
Phyllobates bicolor "Uraba"
Oophaga pumilio "Black Jeans"
Oophaga pumilio "Isla Popa"
Oophaga pumilio "Bastimentos"
Oophaga pumilio “Mimbitimbi”
Oophaga pumilio "Rio Colubre"
Oophaga pumilio "Red Frog Beach”
Oophaga pumilio "Rio Branco"
Oophaga pumilio “Valle del Rey”
Oophaga pumilio "BriBri"
Oophaga pumilio "El Dorado"
Oophaga pumilio "Cristobal"
Oophaga pumilio "Rambala"
Oophaga “Vicentei” (blue)
Oophaga sylvatica "Paru"
Oophaga sylvatica "Pata Blanca"
Oophaga histrionica “Redhead”
Oophaga histrionica "Blue"
Oophaga lehmanni "Red"
Oophaga histrionica "Tado"
Ranitomeya variabilis "Southern"
Ranitomeya imitator "Varadero"
Ranitomeya sirensis "Lower Ucayali"
Ranitomeya vanzolinii
http://www.fernsfrogs.com
https://www.facebook.com/ferns.frogs
Some questions after your answers.
First of all, I he decided to buy Exo Terra 45x45x60 as you recommend me. It will cost 60€ so It's cheap.
If you say me not to use a fogger, I won't use it.
I can't buy MistKing (it would be very expensive to ship to Spain ) but I can buy Monsoon or another cheaper in reptile shops
Why should I cover the top ? it is supposedly for keeping humidity but if I got a rain system, could I not to cover? I would avoid growing bacteria and fungus
Last, I don't understand how you make draining. Are there photos or videos?
Hi ,
You will be very happy with the 45 x 60 ! It was a great by. Exciting !
BTW -I believe mist king is a Canadian Co. You can buy directly from them. You don't have to purchase from a co/ in the us.
MistKing Misting Systems by Jungle Hobbies Ltd
I didn't say not to use a fogger. I have never used one ( "don't know") . Maybe other members have experience with foggers and exo tops.
Most mist systems use 1/4" tubing --- the tubing slips into an opening in the back of the exo top made specifically for tubing and cords.
I would have to say that if the tops are not sealed - you will likely have difficulty keep the humidity high enough.
Sorry- I do not have a video of the drilling. I had a glass guy do it for me. I found someone to do it for $20 /per tank.
I removed the screens and cut the glass for the tops. But was not going to mess with the drilling.
I believe A FF search will find you instructions, however. Drilling is not necessary but simply a convenience.
Lynn
Current Collection
Dendrobates leucomelas - standard morph
Dendrobates auratus “Costa Rican Green Black"
Dendrobates auratus "Pena Blanca"
Dendrobates tinctorius “New River”
Dendrobates tinctorius "Green Sipaliwini"
Dendrobates tinctorius “Powder Blue"
Dendrobates tinctorius "French Guiana Dwarf Cobalt"
Phyllobates terribilis “Mint”
Phyllobates terribilis "Orange"
Phyllobates bicolor "Uraba"
Oophaga pumilio "Black Jeans"
Oophaga pumilio "Isla Popa"
Oophaga pumilio "Bastimentos"
Oophaga pumilio “Mimbitimbi”
Oophaga pumilio "Rio Colubre"
Oophaga pumilio "Red Frog Beach”
Oophaga pumilio "Rio Branco"
Oophaga pumilio “Valle del Rey”
Oophaga pumilio "BriBri"
Oophaga pumilio "El Dorado"
Oophaga pumilio "Cristobal"
Oophaga pumilio "Rambala"
Oophaga “Vicentei” (blue)
Oophaga sylvatica "Paru"
Oophaga sylvatica "Pata Blanca"
Oophaga histrionica “Redhead”
Oophaga histrionica "Blue"
Oophaga lehmanni "Red"
Oophaga histrionica "Tado"
Ranitomeya variabilis "Southern"
Ranitomeya imitator "Varadero"
Ranitomeya sirensis "Lower Ucayali"
Ranitomeya vanzolinii
http://www.fernsfrogs.com
https://www.facebook.com/ferns.frogs
Ok! I have seen Monsoon 109€ and MistKing for 139€. I think I'll buying Monsoon except you say to me there is a big quality difference.
About draining, I read about a PVC with holes that raised on the layer (of course covered) which you could siphone or something like that to remove extra water.
Hello,
" I read about a PVC with holes that raised on the layer (of course covered) which you could siphone or something like that to remove extra water."
Sorry- My dart tanks are not set up this way. My tanks drain - as mentioned -from a hole drilled into the back-lower glass- of the tanks. The hole is positioned at the upper level of the hydro.
" I think I'll buying Monsoon except you say to me there is a big quality difference."
We have not discussed Monsoon products --specifically ?
I have never used Monsoon brand products , so I have zero experience with them. Sorry
You could post a ? regarding Monsoon products? Maybe other members might have some tips for you ?
Lynn
Current Collection
Dendrobates leucomelas - standard morph
Dendrobates auratus “Costa Rican Green Black"
Dendrobates auratus "Pena Blanca"
Dendrobates tinctorius “New River”
Dendrobates tinctorius "Green Sipaliwini"
Dendrobates tinctorius “Powder Blue"
Dendrobates tinctorius "French Guiana Dwarf Cobalt"
Phyllobates terribilis “Mint”
Phyllobates terribilis "Orange"
Phyllobates bicolor "Uraba"
Oophaga pumilio "Black Jeans"
Oophaga pumilio "Isla Popa"
Oophaga pumilio "Bastimentos"
Oophaga pumilio “Mimbitimbi”
Oophaga pumilio "Rio Colubre"
Oophaga pumilio "Red Frog Beach”
Oophaga pumilio "Rio Branco"
Oophaga pumilio “Valle del Rey”
Oophaga pumilio "BriBri"
Oophaga pumilio "El Dorado"
Oophaga pumilio "Cristobal"
Oophaga pumilio "Rambala"
Oophaga “Vicentei” (blue)
Oophaga sylvatica "Paru"
Oophaga sylvatica "Pata Blanca"
Oophaga histrionica “Redhead”
Oophaga histrionica "Blue"
Oophaga lehmanni "Red"
Oophaga histrionica "Tado"
Ranitomeya variabilis "Southern"
Ranitomeya imitator "Varadero"
Ranitomeya sirensis "Lower Ucayali"
Ranitomeya vanzolinii
http://www.fernsfrogs.com
https://www.facebook.com/ferns.frogs
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