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    Congratulations!! He/she looks good. Seems that all has gone according to plan and you arrived home to your healthy Albino.


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    Hi,
    since yesterday my pacman frog is burried in its breeding box.
    I checked and she is sleeping (Closed eyes).
    I am quite surprised because I never saw a baby pacman frog going under substrate to sleep.

    Temperature is 27°C to 28°C
    Substrate (Coco fiber) is moist.
    Humidity is between 70% and 80%

    How do I have to manage it ?

    Ps : ok, she went out of substrate, to shed !
    She/he sheds again everyday, as just before I left for Holidays.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GRABibus View Post
    Hi,
    since yesterday my pacman frog is burried in its breeding box.
    I checked and she is sleeping (Closed eyes).
    I am quite surprised because I never saw a baby pacman frog going under substrate to sleep.

    Temperature is 27°C to 28°C
    Substrate (Coco fiber) is moist.
    Humidity is between 70% and 80%

    How do I have to manage it ?

    Ps : ok, she went out of substrate, to shed !
    She/he sheds again everyday, as just before I left for Holidays.
    I don't believe the shedding is an issue if the frog is growing. They do sometimes sleep with their eyes all the way closed. Not often, but they will.


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    I don't know also if it is an issue or not.
    But today, she is "Brighting" again as before a shedding.
    She doesn't want to eat as yesterday.
    Those daily sheddings make her/him a little bit apathic and with very very low appetite...This is quite strange...
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    Quote Originally Posted by GRABibus View Post
    I don't know also if it is an issue or not.
    But today, she is "Brighting" again as before a shedding.
    She doesn't want to eat as yesterday.
    Those daily sheddings make her/him a little bit apathic and with very very low appetite...This is quite strange...
    Does she appear dry before a shed?


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    yes, a little bit.
    Why ?

    Don't you think some days or weeks in a breeding box with paper and water should help ?
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    Quote Originally Posted by GRABibus View Post
    yes, a little bit.
    Why ?

    Don't you think some days or weeks in a breeding box with paper and water should help ?
    I succeeded to maker her/he eating, despite some efforts (2 medium locusts, 1 cricket and 1 red runner roach). I gave some multivitamins too.
    I changed the substrate which was too much moist and I could see she/he is very active in the temporarly breeding box I put her/him while changing the substrate.
    So, I think there is no disease problem according to me.

    I will let her/him quiet because lot of stress today and will try to feed tomorrow evening.

    Let's see what happens with this daily sheeding in the next days and weeks...

    PS : I put the blond peat without fertilizers as substrate, because I don't have any more coco fiber and becaus eI am pretty sure this shedding process was not due to the blond peat...

    I will post to inform about evolution in the next days or weeks.
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    New picture from today, after its daily shedding...



    Today, again, she/he was apathic due to shedding preparation. She lower her/his feeeding response, but I succeeded in feeding her/him.
    This frog is a mystery.
    I put "off" the Reptifogger for the next days (Which put fog just above the breeding box) to check if it helps .

    I will find the reason of this excessive shedding !!!
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    Despite this f.....g daily shedding, she/he still eating so much...Everyday 5 or 6 insects (Locusts, roaches, crickets) or little earthworms.
    I am going to reduce a little bit, and feed 3 times per week maximum now.







    The face makes me thinking about a male...
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    Quote Originally Posted by GRABibus View Post
    Despite this f.....g daily shedding, she/he still eating so much...Everyday 5 or 6 insects (Locusts, roaches, crickets) or little earthworms.
    I am going to reduce a little bit, and feed 3 times per week maximum now.







    The face makes me thinking about a male...
    How big is the frog SVL? Should start getting Nuptial Pads at about 3 inches. If there are no pads it is probably female. Skull shape does look somewhat male, but looks can be deceiving sometimes.


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    What do you mean by SVL ?
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    Quote Originally Posted by GRABibus View Post
    What do you mean by SVL ?
    Snout to Vent Length.


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    Quote Originally Posted by GrifTheGreat View Post
    Snout to Vent Length.
    Don't forget I am french

    Snout to vent ?
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    Quote Originally Posted by GRABibus View Post
    Don't forget I am french

    Snout to vent ?
    How long is the frog from the tip of it's nose to it's butt. Lol!


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    I didn't measure yet. I will do it at next substrate cleaning, on next Sunday.
    An estimation should be 2 inches.
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    Since 3 days, my Graboule cries during the night !
    Even if there aren't nuptial pads yet and even if the frog is very young (Between 2 and 3 months years old), we can say it's a male ??
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    Who doubted my albino is a male ?

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    Some new pictures :











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    Default Re: My new friend, Albino Horned Frog, Graboule !

    As I told you on the other mesage board, very nice frog, I will let you know when I'll purchase mine, and show you my installation before the purchase. Is it possible to show us your installation ? It would be appreciated.

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    Default Re: My new friend, Albino Horned Frog, Graboule !

    Hi Iano !
    Welcome on Frogforum

    In fact, Graboule is still in what I call a "Growth enclosure". The advantage at the moment is that it avoids stress because it it small and covered and it can be cleaned easily and rapidly. Before any transfer in a terrarium, I want to be sure that it is completely healthy. Everything goes fine at the moment, despite this daily shedding process which seems not to be an issue after long discussions with GrifTheGreat. It eats very well, defecates 1 to 2 times a week, poops seem normal, and he is reactive when I have to manipulate him, so a lot of good signs !





    As you can see :
    - Graboule is in a breeding box (30cmx20cm)
    - 6cm coco fiber inside
    - This breeding box is in an Exo Terra 18"x18"x18"
    - A heating cable 75W from HydroKable is fixed on 2 faces of teh terrarium and helps in getting 77F to 82,4F during the day
    - A ReptiGlo 13W UVB2.0 is used with the dedicated Exo Terra "Compact top" 45 x 9 x 20 cm. Light is attenuated a lot with some plates put on the top of the terrarium just below the lamp. It is an albino, so light is really not a must.
    - Heating cable and Compact Top are plugged on a Lucky Reptile Thermo Control Pro 2.
    - Day/night cycle for light is 13h/11h.
    - A Reptifogger from ZooMed is used to maintain humidity level between 60% to 85%.

    I will build the final enclosure (Exo Terra 18"x18"x18") end of July I think.
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