sick pacman

[madmike3675]

I have 2 pacmans and my albino is sick I have them in seperate tanks my albino stopped eating about 8 days ago and has become very skinny and her tung is sticking out of her mouth just alittle bit i dont know what to do i use eco earth, and cycle the light on and off like normal she was fine until about 6 days ago or so then she started getting skinny. any ideas

[Ozone17K]

Pictures pictures pictures! Grif or no one can help you out untill we see your sick from man. I know its a pain but thats the only way you can get some good feel on here

[madmike3675]

ok i will load pictures

[madmike3675]

[here is the first picture]Attachment 46194Attachment 46195here is the second picture]

[madmike3675]

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[DVirginiana]

Okay, that really doesn't look good. If she was healthy beforehand, she wouldn't look like that after just 8 days. There was probably something underlying wrong before you noticed this. You need to answer the questions in the 'Trouble in the Enclosure' sticky before anyone can really give any advice.

[GrifTheGreat]

You need to take your frog to a Herp Vet ASAP. Looks to be Hypocalcemic. If you are using a daylight bulb then you need to stop. Albinos are hypersensitive to bright lights and UVB radiation. You should only use Infrared bulbs with Albinos and never should any bulb exceed 50 watts.

Answer these questions http://www.frogforum.net/pacman-frog...nclosure.htmlu and repost the answers here in your thread.

[GrifTheGreat]

If you would please post your pictures again. For some reason when I deleted your duplicate post it removed your photos and will not allow me to review them in your links.

Thank you.

[madmike3675]

[madmike3675]

10 gallon ecloser
she is the only one in there
Temp about 80 in day and 76 at night '
hum is about 70%
tap water used with conditioner mixed
eco earth subrate
cave and plants ( fake ) for hiding
calcium every week
crickets gut loaded every so often
kept in low trafic area
not hardly handled
changed water every other day unless she is in it
no poop found lately
had pacman about 3 months
ate aboout 8 days ago

[GrifTheGreat]

Well everything looks ok.

Do you use a multivitmin powder?

Does your calcium powder contain Vitamin D3?

[madmike3675]

Update On my Albino Pacman Her tung was sticking out but i was able to get that back in and when i did she swallowed 2 big swallows and her tung is back to normal again and also i soaked her in non flavored pedialite and water for 20 min, after that her color came back and she seems like she has alittle energy now i am going to leave her alone for the night and i will try to feed her tomorrow or the next day heres hoping for a speedy recovery for pork that is her name. thanks to this site for the info because there is no herp vet for a 100 miles around where i live so we will see..

[DVirginiana]

Do you know what her conditions were before you got her, like what she was fed?
All your stuff sounds right. I was just thinking depending on her diet before like if she were being fed fish or something maybe long-term parasites could cause that sort of malnutrition. Because an adult shouldn't go from being normal to being that skinny after just a week of not eating.

Another thought; it looks like she isn't retaining water like most pacs do. Not sure what that would mean, but it strikes me as odd.

Honestly, you probably need to go to a herp vet if you can. This looks pretty bad and there's no obvious cause for it.

[DVirginiana]

Glad she seems a bit better. Is she able to move around on her own?

because there is no herp vet for a 100 miles around where i live so we will see..

Sorry, that got posted while I was writing my response.

[GrifTheGreat]

Do you know what her conditions were before you got her, like what she was fed?
All your stuff sounds right. I was just thinking depending on her diet before like if she were being fed fish or something maybe long-term parasites could cause that sort of malnutrition. Because an adult shouldn't go from being normal to being that skinny after just a week of not eating.

Another thought; it looks like she isn't retaining water like most pacs do. Not sure what that would mean, but it strikes me as odd.

Honestly, you probably need to go to a herp vet if you can. This looks pretty bad and there's no obvious cause for it.

Calcium overload can cause them to retain water(Edema). If the frog was getting calcium, but no D3 this could be the reason for water retension.

[Lija]

wait a minute, you said you use Ca powder once a week? and no multivitamin? is it right?

[madmike3675]

No multi vitamin She hasnt moved around alot today that i have noticed I am doing a pedialite bath tonight unflavored i used 1 cap of pedialite and 10 caps of conditioned water i will see what happens next. and I got her when she was a baby about the size of a quarter I got them from LA pet supply i dont know what they fed her.

[GrifTheGreat]

No multi vitamin She hasnt moved around alot today that i have noticed I am doing a pedialite bath tonight unflavored i used 1 cap of pedialite and 10 caps of conditioned water i will see what happens next. and I got her when she was a baby about the size of a quarter I got them from LA pet supply i dont know what they fed her.

You need to buy a Multivitamin powder and go ahead and pick up some Repta-Boost too.

[DVirginiana]

and I got her when she was a baby about the size of a quarter I got them from LA pet supply i dont know what they fed her.

Sorry, for some reason I was thinking you had bought these as adults.
Can you post a picture of the other pac as well? You need to also start feeding him with the multivitamin so if he hasn't already started to show symptoms he won't develop any.