Hello I am new to this forum and I hope I am following proper procedure to post this. I have concerns about my tree frogs. I work at a pet store and we had a shipment of feeder fish come in. In the bag were tadpoles. we do not sell them and had no place to keep the so I adopted them. They are now full grown frogs. I have had them since July. They are american green tree frogs. Throughout the time I have had them three have been healthy. The last tadpole to morph I have termed the "baby". The baby has been smaller then the rest and was thin but not unhealthy. The baby started so become very emaciated about a month ago. The frog would not eat. I tried force feeding until I was able to have him seen by a vet. The vet saw all my frogs and deemed them all healthy besides the smallest being emaciated from lack of eating. She gave me a supplement to feed the frog. I started to feed the baby based on her recommendation. I have also looked up how do it properly to minimize stress. Well I started to notice add behavior in the frog. The frogs's back legs would twitch and and spasm also the frog no longer climbs or moves. The frog also can not right itself when it flips over. As of a week and a half ago i have started to see these symptoms in two of the others who are no becoming emaciated. So now i am force feeding three of them. One of which will eat if I hand feed it. The frogs also are not shedding well and seem to do it more then once a week. I have been keeping an eye on them and soak them to help them with the sheds. I am trying to help them but not do things to much to overly stress the out.
The setup:
20 gallon high
78-80 degrees during day
drops to 75 70 at night.
Under tank heater with red heating bulb.
humidity is 80 constant we spray and have a repi-fogger
eco earth with soaking dish and plenty of plants (all are fake)
with reg maintenance on tank
feed them meal-worms and crickets
This past weekend the baby frog has gotten bad. I called the vet but she is on vacation for a week. She is the only exotic one i know of in the area. She is the zoo vet.
I have spent all weekend looking up information and research articles on these guys. It sounded like chyrid but one some of the research suggests they are susceptible to it. I don't know what to do. I understand using a non ve approved method for treatment of a fungal infection i am not certain of is risky but I don't want to lose them. I have seen articles on soaking them in high temp water, diluted lamsil at baths, pima fix baths etc..
Sorry for the story but if anyone has an ideas I would appreciate it.
Thank you.
Hi,
Sorry I have to welcome you to Frog Forum with a sad post about your frogs.
Nonetheless, welcome
Let's start here, we will try to help.
>The frogs's back legs would twitch and and spasm also the frog no longer climbs or moves. The frog also can not right itself when it flips over. >
I'm not a vet; but this sounds like it could be a calcium deficiency?
Do you, and have you, dusted the feeders with a calcium supplement?
If so, how often?
Let's see what others think?
Lynn
Current Collection
Dendrobates leucomelas - standard morph
Dendrobates auratus “Costa Rican Green Black"
Dendrobates auratus "Pena Blanca"
Dendrobates tinctorius “New River”
Dendrobates tinctorius "Green Sipaliwini"
Dendrobates tinctorius “Powder Blue"
Dendrobates tinctorius "French Guiana Dwarf Cobalt"
Phyllobates terribilis “Mint”
Phyllobates terribilis "Orange"
Phyllobates bicolor "Uraba"
Oophaga pumilio "Black Jeans"
Oophaga pumilio "Isla Popa"
Oophaga pumilio "Bastimentos"
Oophaga pumilio “Mimbitimbi”
Oophaga pumilio "Rio Colubre"
Oophaga pumilio "Red Frog Beach”
Oophaga pumilio "Rio Branco"
Oophaga pumilio “Valle del Rey”
Oophaga pumilio "BriBri"
Oophaga pumilio "El Dorado"
Oophaga pumilio "Cristobal"
Oophaga pumilio "Rambala"
Oophaga “Vicentei” (blue)
Oophaga sylvatica "Paru"
Oophaga sylvatica "Pata Blanca"
Oophaga histrionica “Redhead”
Oophaga histrionica "Blue"
Oophaga lehmanni "Red"
Oophaga histrionica "Tado"
Ranitomeya variabilis "Southern"
Ranitomeya imitator "Varadero"
Ranitomeya sirensis "Lower Ucayali"
Ranitomeya vanzolinii
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I agree that this sounds like a calcium deficiency. This would definitely happen if the frog wasn't eating much. If you aren't already, then I recommend dusting with calcium supplement with every feeding since they're so young. This frog will definitely need to see a vet asap. Good luck!
Hopefully you will be able to speak to the vet soon.
If this is a ca deficiency, it can be corrected.
The vet can prescribe Ca that what work faster than what is used for dusting feeders.
Current Collection
Dendrobates leucomelas - standard morph
Dendrobates auratus “Costa Rican Green Black"
Dendrobates auratus "Pena Blanca"
Dendrobates tinctorius “New River”
Dendrobates tinctorius "Green Sipaliwini"
Dendrobates tinctorius “Powder Blue"
Dendrobates tinctorius "French Guiana Dwarf Cobalt"
Phyllobates terribilis “Mint”
Phyllobates terribilis "Orange"
Phyllobates bicolor "Uraba"
Oophaga pumilio "Black Jeans"
Oophaga pumilio "Isla Popa"
Oophaga pumilio "Bastimentos"
Oophaga pumilio “Mimbitimbi”
Oophaga pumilio "Rio Colubre"
Oophaga pumilio "Red Frog Beach”
Oophaga pumilio "Rio Branco"
Oophaga pumilio “Valle del Rey”
Oophaga pumilio "BriBri"
Oophaga pumilio "El Dorado"
Oophaga pumilio "Cristobal"
Oophaga pumilio "Rambala"
Oophaga “Vicentei” (blue)
Oophaga sylvatica "Paru"
Oophaga sylvatica "Pata Blanca"
Oophaga histrionica “Redhead”
Oophaga histrionica "Blue"
Oophaga lehmanni "Red"
Oophaga histrionica "Tado"
Ranitomeya variabilis "Southern"
Ranitomeya imitator "Varadero"
Ranitomeya sirensis "Lower Ucayali"
Ranitomeya vanzolinii
http://www.fernsfrogs.com
https://www.facebook.com/ferns.frogs
You can purchase liquid calcium and use it. Soak the frogs in a luke warm bath with liquid calcium and place it in their water source. They will absorb the calcium through their skin.
Hope you get to the Vet soon.
Welcome to Frog Forum.
Ok I can get a calcium supplement. I went out to get pedialyte to soak him in. Some of the information I found said that using a diluted mixture of non-flavored pedialyte can help
Thank you all for the help. I plan to take them to the vet as soon as she is back.
She said calcium may be the issue. she suggested repcal soaks but its 2-3 iu's per ml how do i measure that?
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