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    Default Adf tadpoles dying. Please help

    I have 3 week old adf tadpoles that are slowly dying off. I'm hoping someone can help me figure out what is wrong and how I can help the remaining live.

    They were fine for the first 2 weeks and I have done nothing different. I have raised adf tadpoles perforce and the only thing I did different this time was fed microworms which were to smelly for me so I went back to just feeding bbs.

    The tadpoles start by swimming awkwardly. Within a day it gets to the point where they spin instead of swimming. Then they can't even maintain their balance, hang out at the bottom on their side. Then by day 2 die

    it follows the same pattern every time. And affect 1-3 at a time. I'm down to 6 left. All have ate and grown normally. The remaining have partially developed legs.

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    Default Re: Adf tadpoles dying. Please help

    Quote Originally Posted by glutenfreemama View Post
    I have 3 week old adf tadpoles that are slowly dying off. I'm hoping someone can help me figure out what is wrong and how I can help the remaining live.

    They were fine for the first 2 weeks and I have done nothing different. I have raised adf tadpoles perforce and the only thing I did different this time was fed microworms which were to smelly for me so I went back to just feeding bbs.

    The tadpoles start by swimming awkwardly. Within a day it gets to the point where they spin instead of swimming. Then they can't even maintain their balance, hang out at the bottom on their side. Then by day 2 die

    it follows the same pattern every time. And affect 1-3 at a time. I'm down to 6 left. All have ate and grown normally. The remaining have partially developed legs.
    Hi Melissa,
    I have NEVER done this. I have never had an ADF.
    I do remember, however, reading about how the food.....in the very beginning.....is the most difficult part of helping them to develop properly. What do you feed them for the first 2 weeks?

    I have done this for Dicus and Angle fish fry . I used to put tulling ( fabric store- by the yard or on rolls at a craft store) around the filter intake valve. It is a very, very fine mesh. I had to raise brine shrimp ( store bought are too large) and make infusoria? They both take some time, so timing is important.

    I found this 'recipe' for infusoria?

    How to Make Infusoria: 8 steps - wikiHow

    Keep trying - you can do it! Just think how rewarding it will be!!!! It's so much work.
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    I fed them infusoria from moss balls and first bites food. They all seem to grow at the right rate..
    I am hatching them fresh baby brine shrimp every day and they gorge on it.
    They seem fine until one by one they start swimming abnormal. It gets worse and worse until they die

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    Default Re: Adf tadpoles dying. Please help

    You need to determine which species of ADF you have. Hymenochirus curtipes tadpoles are more difficult to raise than H. boettgeri. It is fairly easy to tell apart. H. boettgeri has a long tail that is pigmented to the end. H. curtipes tail is broad and unpigmented. Those of the boettgeri group will take larger food, such as, tubifex worms, small insects and brine shrimp. If they are in the curtipes group, they should be fed infusoria a while longer. Metamorphosis takes place in about 6 weeks. Good luck and hope all goes well.
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    Default Re: Adf tadpoles dying. Please help

    Quote Originally Posted by tgampper View Post
    You need to determine which species of ADF you have. Hymenochirus curtipes tadpoles are more difficult to raise than H. boettgeri. It is fairly easy to tell apart. H. boettgeri has a long tail that is pigmented to the end. H. curtipes tail is broad and unpigmented. Those of the boettgeri group will take larger food, such as, tubifex worms, small insects and brine shrimp. If they are in the curtipes group, they should be fed infusoria a while longer. Metamorphosis takes place in about 6 weeks. Good luck and hope all goes well.
    Thank You for coming to the rescue , Terry !
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    Dendrobates tinctorius "Green Sipaliwini"
    Dendrobates tinctorius “Powder Blue"
    Dendrobates tinctorius "French Guiana Dwarf Cobalt"

    Phyllobates terribilis “Mint”
    Phyllobates terribilis "Orange"
    Phyllobates bicolor "Uraba"

    Oophaga pumilio "Black Jeans"
    Oophaga pumilio "Isla Popa"
    Oophaga pumilio "Bastimentos"
    Oophaga pumilio “Mimbitimbi”
    Oophaga pumilio "Rio Colubre"
    Oophaga pumilio "Red Frog Beach”
    Oophaga pumilio "Rio Branco"
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    Oophaga pumilio "Rambala"

    Oophaga “Vicentei” (blue)

    Oophaga sylvatica "Paru"
    Oophaga sylvatica "Pata Blanca"
    Oophaga histrionica “Redhead”
    Oophaga histrionica "Blue"
    Oophaga lehmanni "Red"
    Oophaga histrionica "Tado"

    Ranitomeya variabilis "Southern"
    Ranitomeya imitator "Varadero"
    Ranitomeya sirensis "Lower Ucayali"
    Ranitomeya vanzolinii

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    Default Re: Adf tadpoles dying. Please help

    Quote Originally Posted by tgampper View Post
    You need to determine which species of ADF you have. Hymenochirus curtipes tadpoles are more difficult to raise than H. boettgeri. It is fairly easy to tell apart. H. boettgeri has a long tail that is pigmented to the end. H. curtipes tail is broad and unpigmented. Those of the boettgeri group will take larger food, such as, tubifex worms, small insects and brine shrimp. If they are in the curtipes group, they should be fed infusoria a while longer. Metamorphosis takes place in about 6 weeks. Good luck and hope all goes well.
    based on your description I would say they are h. Boettgeri. I have raised a previous set from the same parents which are now 4 months old and healthy.

    These appeared healthy too until 2.5 weeks. They are 3.5 weeks now and all have legs and arm buds. One by one they have increasing difficult swimming over a few days then die.

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