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    Hey everyone, I'm in serious need of some help. I have a 3-4 year old African clawed frog and I woke up yesterday to see that she had a deep gash on the right side of her jaw just under her eye and what appears to be a blister in the same spot on the left side. There is nothing in the tank sharp enough to do that kind of damage and no other creature to harm her, either. All I can guess is that there was a blister on the right side as well and she scratched at it, resulting in the wound. Both sides are a deep red color. I was worried about Red leg at first, but, as far as I can tell, her legs are fine. The filter has been on the fritz and a layer of dark purple/ black algae had accumulated on the back wall of the tank, but only there, and the water in general was clear (there is some waste on the bottom of the tank, but not a copious amount). I've replaced the filter, cleaned out the algae, and am getting ready to do a water change. Is there any medicine or treatment I can give her? She won't sit still and is swimming into the walls, filter, and heater of the tank often, and the gash looks really bad. Any and all advice is greatly appreciated! Thanks!

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    99% of the time any problems with these frogs is due to water quality. Removing the filter is a bad idea I would replace it immediately and put the old media inside of it to get your beneficial bacteria back.. I would also do a massive water change ASAP and I would recommend Prime as a water conditioner (don't use straight from tap).

    Get an API liquid test kit.. what are your water readings? Ammonia/Nitrite/Nitrate?

    I've never seen black/purple algae but it sounds really bad to me.. my guess is there was excessive shedding and skin irritation from poor water quality as they do use their claws to shed their skin.. but that's just my best guess.

    I would worry more about getting the water quality under control than medication but maybe someone will chime in with medication ideas if necessary I've never had any experience with using meds for these frogs. If you get the water quality under control these frogs usually will recover.

    Again I cannot stress enough for you and everyone else having problems with xenopus.. if your frog is sick or becomes injured or is acting odd or whatever 9 times out of 10 it's because your water parameters are off.

    0 Ammonia (toxic)
    0 Nitrite (toxic)
    >20ppm Nitrate .. live plants can keep this under control.

    Temp 68F to 72F too cold will compromise their immune systems too hot will cause stress and possible stroke 86F+ is lethal.

    Heaters can burn these frogs, in most cases a heater isn't necessary if you can keep the water 68-72F which is room temperature.

    Filters are necessary, these frogs create a lot of waste. The more filtration the better.. a good canister is ideal for HOB filters I like Tetra Whisper Internal filters.. over filter over filter over filter.. you can't have enough filtration. My 40G Breeder has 4 filters on it!

    Water changes are necessary, change 25% of the water every week no matter how good your filtration is.

    Condition your tap water.. chlorine is bad (toxic to frogs + kills your beneficial bacteria).. use something like Prime (I like prime because it neutralizes ammonia, nitrite, and various other toxic elements).

    http://aqadvisor.com/ is a good site to help you understand how much filtration you need and how much of a water change you need to do weekly.
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    Thanks mpmister! I'll check the levels. I use a tetra conditioner, but will definitely check out prime, and have to use a heater to keep it within that temp range (my dad keeps the house very cool). What freaked me out the most was that no significant change had been made to the tank, and there have been periods of time where a filter has had similar problems and nothing like this has happened. I guess I've just been lucky up till this point and I may even buy a backup filter like you suggested. Thanks again!

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    Good deal. Prime is more or less the de facto water conditioner most hobbyists recommend it highly. I've used tetra conditioners before without any issue and I find them acceptable though it does not neutralize as much bad stuff as Prime.

    Let us know how your froggy is doing!

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    Quote Originally Posted by mpmistr View Post
    99% of the time any problems with these frogs is due to water quality. Removing the filter is a bad idea I would replace it immediately and put the old media inside of it to get your beneficial bacteria back.. I would also do a massive water change ASAP and I would recommend Prime as a water conditioner (don't use straight from tap).

    Get an API liquid test kit.. what are your water readings? Ammonia/Nitrite/Nitrate?

    I've never seen black/purple algae but it sounds really bad to me.. my guess is there was excessive shedding and skin irritation from poor water quality as they do use their claws to shed their skin.. but that's just my best guess.

    I would worry more about getting the water quality under control than medication but maybe someone will chime in with medication ideas if necessary I've never had any experience with using meds for these frogs. If you get the water quality under control these frogs usually will recover.

    Again I cannot stress enough for you and everyone else having problems with xenopus.. if your frog is sick or becomes injured or is acting odd or whatever 9 times out of 10 it's because your water parameters are off.

    0 Ammonia (toxic)
    0 Nitrite (toxic)
    >20ppm Nitrate .. live plants can keep this under control.

    Temp 68F to 72F too cold will compromise their immune systems too hot will cause stress and possible stroke 86F+ is lethal.

    Heaters can burn these frogs, in most cases a heater isn't necessary if you can keep the water 68-72F which is room temperature.

    Filters are necessary, these frogs create a lot of waste. The more filtration the better.. a good canister is ideal for HOB filters I like Tetra Whisper Internal filters.. over filter over filter over filter.. you can't have enough filtration. My 40G Breeder has 4 filters on it!

    Water changes are necessary, change 25% of the water every week no matter how good your filtration is.

    Condition your tap water.. chlorine is bad (toxic to frogs + kills your beneficial bacteria).. use something like Prime (I like prime because it neutralizes ammonia, nitrite, and various other toxic elements).

    AqAdvisor - Intelligent Freshwater Tropical Fish Aquarium Stocking Calculator and Aquarium Tank/Filter Advisor is a good site to help you understand how much filtration you need and how much of a water change you need to do weekly.

    This is great advice.

    JUST-- Can you tellmus about your setup and your water parameters? Perhaps provide a pic?

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