Plant identification ?

[IrishRonin]

So there are so many toxic plants out there i want to be sure this one is ok before I put it in with anyone. If anyone know what kind and any info on it, it would be appreciated

[BonnieLorraine]

It's a type of croton, not sure on the cultivar though. Here's what I found when searching on toxicity:
Croton�(Codiaeum variegatum) many species contain croton oil, a strong purgative which causes gastroenteritis.

[BonnieLorraine]

As for cultivar, one of the more common ones is banana, but yours isn't very yellow, leaf shape is right though.

[flybyferns]

So there are so many toxic plants out there i want to be sure this one is ok before I put it in with anyone. If anyone know what kind and any info on it, it would be appreciated

I agree.....It is a croton. ( ? Codiaeum variegatum 'Goldfinger' )

I think the "yellow " ,typically seen on the rim of the leaf, would be more prominent if it were exposed to more light.

There is some conflicting information regarding using this plant with frogs.
However,I have seen them in many enclosures. There are many crotons that have brightly colored foliage.

Codiaeum


List of non-toxic plants for your terrarium


Lynn

[BonnieLorraine]

I've always kind of worried about LLL's list of nontoxic terrarium plants, for one they list natal plums, which have giant thorns about 2 inches long, and then they list Cortaderia selloana which is an eight foot invasive grass with serrated blades that can easily cut your hand. While they may not be toxic, the majority of plants on that list are not suited for terrariums.

As for the Crotons, it would depend on what they were going in with. Is it a frog tank, or a lizard tank where they are more likely to snack on the plants?

[IrishRonin]

Ok so I've read extensively on crotons and it seems all have the croton oil, but only some have it on the outer surface of the leafs and as long as its not ingested it should be ok. I would be putting it into a frog tank. As for the condition of the plant it self, I was at home depot and they had a peace lily and a photos plus this plant all stuck together in the pot that is pictured, all the roots were root bound together so that might explain the color thing. Anyway thanks for the info guys/girls

[flybyferns]

I've always kind of worried about LLL's list of nontoxic terrarium plants, for one they list natal plums, which have giant thorns about 2 inches long, and then they list Cortaderia selloana which is an eight foot invasive grass with serrated blades that can easily cut your hand. While they may not be toxic, the majority of plants on that list are not suited for terrariums.

As for the Crotons, it would depend on what they were going in with. Is it a frog tank, or a lizard tank where they are more likely to snack on the plants?

Very true.
However, I have seen it on more that one so called "toxic plant" list as well as read plenty of posts against using it because of this uncertainty. Because of this, I have not used this really pretty plant in either my A callidryas or A moreletii enclosures. There is nothing worse than conflicting information; but better-safe-than-sorry. There are plenty of greats to choose from!

[arielgasca420]

I have two cortons in my enclosure. I am thinking of taking them out because when my pixie lunges he sometime takes a small chunk out of the leaf. He hasnt had any gastrointestinal problems so far, but as he gets bigger he will be taking bigger chunks out of it. i may just relocate into a cricket enclosure

[BonnieLorraine]

I wouldn't put it anywhere that feeder crickets can eat it, you'd essentially be gutloading your crickets with a slightly toxic plant.

[bigwilliestyles]

I wouldn't put it anywhere that feeder crickets can eat it, you'd essentially be gutloading your crickets with a slightly toxic plant.

Excuse me if I am wrong, but I have read that secondary poisoning from crickets is very unlikely. A lot of the toxicology information regarding plants is based on human contact and not frogs. I would assume that there are many plants in our vivariums and other things that could prove to be unhealthy for consumption by our frogs but they arent nibbling directly on the leaves.

[arielgasca420]

its possible that it may kill my baby crickets. I will just have to wait and see what to do with these Crotons. for now I have rearranged the cage so my frog cant accidentally digest them. he is a very destructive frog and tends to dig up everything I put in there. spoiled brat!

[morgan]

Add a small piece of dog kibble/monkey chow in your enclosure. Crickets will eat that before plants. A piece of potato is a great lure.

[flybyferns]

Excuse me if I am wrong, but I have read that secondary poisoning from crickets is very unlikely. A lot of the toxicology information regarding plants is based on human contact and not frogs. I would assume that there are many plants in our vivariums and other things that could prove to be unhealthy for consumption by our frogs but they arent nibbling directly on the leaves.

This is true. Unfortunately, this is why some plants make it to a "toxic" plant list.
Therefore, it ends up being to be a personal decision.

IrishRobin, if you see this ? Check out some of the low growing ( non-vining) Philodendrons.
They have nice wide leaves that stay close to the substrate. The leaves are really nice as they unfurl.

Lynn