Petsmart had some Ornates...To my surprise

[RibbitSrUs]

So the ornates have horns like the cranwellis and cornutas?

They all have horns but ornates have the false eye spots behind the horns. If you look at the pictures of the back of the frogs you can see how it has the dots there.Cranwellis dont have the dots.

[GrifTheGreat]

So the ornates have horns like the cranwellis and cornutas?

All of Ceratophrys species have horns. Hence the name (Horned Frogs). The Ornates have the smallest Horns(fleshy projections on the eyelid) of the Horned frog family. Cranwellies have pretty prominant horns and the Cornutas have the largest horns. There are several species of Horned frogs, but I do not know what all of them look like as most of them are extremely rare or not in the pet trade at all.

[Sunshine]

Sorry I'm not retarded I just don't know much about these frogs. I didn't know they were called 'horned frogs'. The one at the petsmart here didn't look like it had horns, but I guess it is too young? I don't know.

[GrifTheGreat]

Sorry I'm not retarded I just don't know much about these frogs. I didn't know they were called 'horned frogs'. The one at the petsmart here didn't look like it had horns, but I guess it is too young? I don't know.

I didn't mean to sound like I was insulting your intelagence. I was just sharing information. This way you can better recognize these species. They don't have horns as babies. They develope when they are juvinile. Except for the Cornuta which seem to have them in every stage from froglet to adult.

[Sunshine]

It's ok! I know you mean no harm. You have been very kind and patient with me and my noob questions!! I'm thinking about getting that little pac... I wonder if my roommates will approve of another frog.

[GrifTheGreat]

It's ok! I know you mean no harm. You have been very kind and patient with me and my noob questions!! I'm thinking about getting that little pac... I wonder if my roommates will approve of another frog.

Might be something to discuss with them. I bet they'll think he/she is cute.

[DVirginiana]

It's ok! I know you mean no harm. You have been very kind and patient with me and my noob questions!! I'm thinking about getting that little pac... I wonder if my roommates will approve of another frog.

When I was still smuggling Trevor into my dorm the roommates thought he was adorable... His food, they didn't appreciate so much :P He went over a lot less well once he got big enough that his food started chirping...

Lucky finding actual ornates! Trevor was an 'ornate' when I bought him from a chain petstore too. I knew he was a cranwelli from the get-go though, so it wasn't a huge letdown.

[GrifTheGreat]

Yeah, we went to Petsmart today to see if they had ornates. Just to look, of course. ;-) but they didn't have any pacmans, ornate or otherwise. In fact the only frog they had was a green tree frog who was hidding. Not that I need another frog. Darn frog addiction! Lol

[RibbitSrUs]

Theres maybe 10 petsmarts in a 25 mile radius of me. And i know they usually get a shipment in on tuesday so i usually call around noon time and see if they have any available. And if they do this upcoming tuesday im going on a ornate hunt to see if they got anymore in

[pac]

grifthegreat really the c.aurita has bigger horns then the cornuta if you see on the frogranch

[kueluck]

I agree, just something about a frog drawing blood...that just ain't right.

G'awww. If they stayed that little, I'd get one. It's a mouth with eyes. XD

The big ones kinda freak me out...>_<

[GrifTheGreat]

grifthegreat really the c.aurita has bigger horns then the cornuta if you see on the frogranch

Photos that I've seen of the Aurita do not show horns much larger than a Cranwelli. An adult Cornuta has very tall pointed projections. Aurita does have the largest stripe down its back. From eye to eye and about and down the back. Of course some of more unknown species may have even larger horns.

I've seen a few photos and videos. From what I've seen Cornuta seems to have the largest, but may differ from frog to frog.

[GrifTheGreat]

I agree, just something about a frog drawing blood...that just ain't right.

You know they aren't really scary and not all of them are set on biting you. Fear is one of the main reasons people get bit or attacked by animals. Kind like how bees can sence fear. Aggression twards the keeper can be because of instinct as well as impatient animal during feeding. If the keeper is rough with the animal its going to feel like it needs to defend itself. I will say that there are those large frogs that are determined tobite their owner because of dominance. Very important among males in animals species. Even in humans it shows all the time. The less you are seen as a threat the less chance you're going to seen as a predator.

I think if you get one you'd change your minds.

[RibbitSrUs]

Ive seen both in person the aurita and the cornuta and the cornuta does have longer horns. I guess it really all depends on the frog to. Ive seen cornutas with crooked horns as well. Instead of going straight up the went inwards. I wish they had both frogs more readily available in the pet trade i would get some.

[c0urt maRie]

I'm gonna need froggy anonymous classes by the time I get done with this web page forum!! Lol I have only had my whites for like 3 weeks and I already want to get an ornate pac man to keep in a seperate cage! Lol how long do they live?

[RibbitSrUs]

Ive had a albino for 9 years before it passed. She was massive. They last a good little bit.

[GrifTheGreat]

With perfect health and near perfect husbandry they can live 30+ years. The Manchester Zoo in England has a male Ornate Pacman named Sumo. He's over 30 years old. I believe if cared for properly they can live as long as some humans. Diet and environment have a lot t do with their life span as well. I wish I knew the Manchester Zoo's secret.:P

[Heatheranne]

Lol! They are addicting, aren't they?

I have a cranwelli and a fantasy and I love them both .

[Heatheranne]

Wow! 30 years! That's wonderful .

[Guenhwyvar]

better fatten them up, they look a bit skinny. I love the second one, the first almost looks like mine. I bought mine from a vendor at an expo. They thought he was a Cranwelli, but he's an Ornata^^ I got him for $20. Yours look very pretty. My guy was lime green when I got him, then he changed to brown with lime green dorsal stripe and spots on his head.