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    Tori Savage
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    I have a Grey Tree frog that has a broken leg. I know for a fact it's broken. Is there anything I can do??? It's a wc frog. I've had it for about 3 mo or so now. It is a back leg and pretty much at the hip joint. My husband was closing the lid to the tank and caught the frogs leg. I put it in a critter keeper with moist paper towels. It has climbe to the top and it's leg is just hanging. I feel so bad. What can I do for it???

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    Sorry to hear about your frog's broken leg. You need to isolate the frog and get to the vet ASAP or to a wildlife rehab center. It is very unlikely the frog will be able to heal itself. You may want to swab the wound with Bactine, that will help prevent bacterial infection. The only other option would be to euthanize the frog
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    Ah, poor little guy . I hope he does okay. Good luck!
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    Well the vet tech finally called me back. She told me beings there's a game going on at the college, that the school is closed for the day. And that it would cost almost $200 just for a walk in today. But she said that I could try to take some gauze and tie the frogs leg to it's body for support and try to get it to eat. And that it would be a lot cheaper to wait until Monday because it would be cheaper. So that is my option as of right now. If anyone has any other advice, I'd gladly take it. Thanks guys.

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    That's another thing. What's weird is that there isn't any open wounds. No skin tearing, no holes from the bone snapping. Nothing........
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    Is it possible that the leg is pulled out of socket? I'm sorry about your frog, I hope it's doing better soon...

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    Wow, that's some serious swelling. The surgery to fix it will be pretty invasive, and probably very expensive.

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    I'll have to find a way to put it to sleep, or try to hold out until Friday. Those are my choices. I don't have $500 to hand them at one time. So, yeah......... I feel horrible, but I am trying to think of anything else I can do. I feel bad because the frog has been suffering, and I tried to wrap some gauze around the frog and leg to try to give the leg some support. But the only thing is, the accident happened Thanksgiving night. I think it may be too late to even try to fix the leg. So either I find a way to put it to sleep, or wait until Friday like I said. I'm really torn, I just don't want to have to put him to sleep just because of a broken leg. But it may be too late to even try to help him. Any advice???

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    Most aquarium stores will either sell MS-222 (aka tricaine) or clove oil, just put in 3-10 times the normal dose, and it should result in euthanasia in a humane way (simply going to sleep & never waking up).

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    I have clove oil. Used it to put my daughter's Beta to sleep. Thanks to the cat knocking off the tank and trying to rip the fish in half. But I'm just really torn as to wait, or go ahead and put it to sleep. It may be too late to try to get him help.

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    Oh Tori,
    I'm so sorry.
    When a pet is sick they need us to make decisions for them.
    Our hearts tell one thing and our minds tell us another.
    It's so hard. Sorry

    How about a much smaller enclosure? So he can not climb.
    Then, his leg won't hang.
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    The frog is already in a smaller enclosure. It's in the smallest critter keeper they make. It's turned on it's side so he can't climb that high. But I still feel so horrible in this decision making.

    This is my options....
    A) Wait until Friday and see what the vet says...
    OR
    B) Go ahead and put the frog to sleep...

    The incident happened Thursday(Thanksgiving night). I think it may be too late to even try to fix. And where the leg is broken, I don't even know if it can be fixed. Think of the frogs rear end. The leg is broke right at the hip joint. I think there is more damage than a broken bone. Even though there isn't any physical wounds besides the broken bone, but I think some veins and nerves may be severed. At this point, I'm kind of leaning more towards putting it to sleep because if they can fix it, it will stress the frog even more to have his back leg mending and hurting. That also means more of a down time, and he can't hunt as is. He hasn't eaten since the night it happened. I just think it may be smarter to go ahead and end the suffering now, and put him to sleep than to make him suffer even longer. Does any one agree/disagree?

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    I'm sorry to say, but if he's not eating, it may be his way of giving up and shutting down....

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    Well, my husband and I has really discussed the options, and we are both opting for putting him to sleep. Anyone know how to do it with the clove oil?

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    Well I tried the clove oil.... All it did was put him in a frenzy, and made his belly, feet and legs turn blood red. My last resort was the baby orajel qtips...... I went through 3 of them, but he's in froggy heaven now. He isn't hurting or suffering anymore. But I know my heart is. They say death comes in threes..... I wonder if this would actually count considering I put him to sleep myself??? If it does, then lord help me and say a prayer for my family!!!

    Thanks for all the advice guys!




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    He was the only one that croaked nightly. Didn't matter if he'd just eaten, or been misted. The middle of the night was his time to talk, and he sure did. My house is silent now. No more croaking.

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    I'm sorry for your loss .
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tori Savage View Post
    Well I tried the clove oil.... All it did was put him in a frenzy, and made his belly, feet and legs turn blood red. My last resort was the baby orajel qtips...... I went through 3 of them, but he's in froggy heaven now. He isn't hurting or suffering anymore. But I know my heart is. They say death comes in threes..... I wonder if this would actually count considering I put him to sleep myself??? If it does, then lord help me and say a prayer for my family!!!

    Thanks for all the advice guys!




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    He was the only one that croaked nightly. Didn't matter if he'd just eaten, or been misted. The middle of the night was his time to talk, and he sure did. My house is silent now. No more croaking.
    Sorry Tori,
    I now about the croaking, I remember you mentioning that.
    You did the right thing.
    Oh, and by the way, I doubt the Lord will hold you responsible for the euthanasia of your froggie; on the contrary !
    Humans spend hours every day on earth helping the suffering.

    Have you ever read this poem? Get a tissue!

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    By the edge of a woods, at the foot of a hill,
    Is a lush, green meadow where time stands still.
    Where the friends of man and woman do run,
    When their time on earth is over and done.

    For here, between this world and the next,
    Is a place where each beloved creature finds rest.
    On this golden land, they wait and they play,
    Till the Rainbow Bridge they cross over one day.

    No more do they suffer, in pain or in sadness,
    For here they are whole, their lives filled with gladness.
    Their limbs are restored, their health renewed,
    Their bodies have healed, with strength imbued.

    They romp through the grass, without even a care,
    Until one day they start, and sniff at the air.
    All ears prick forward, eyes dart front and back,
    Then all of a sudden, one breaks from the pack.

    For just at that instant, their eyes have met;
    Together again, both person and pet.
    So they run to each other, these friends from long past,
    The time of their parting is over at last.

    The sadness they felt while they were apart,
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    Lynn, thanks. That poem reminded me of my horse I used to have. You'd swear he was a really big over grown lap dog with the way he acted. But I know I done the right thing instead of making him suffer more. He's already suffered enough and I doubt very seriously the leg could've been fixed. I feel horrible because I've waited and made him suffer this long and I've used clove oil before and I know it set my mouth on fire. So I can just imagine how he felt. But he's in a better place now. Thanks guys.

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    Soo sorry Tori. There is nothing wrong with trying and having hope for a recovery. You did right by him.

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    Yeah, you did the right thing. I am so sorry for your loss..

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