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    sebastianbawn
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    Hi I was hoping someone may be able to identify my pics for me, any help would be greatly appreciated.
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    I would say its Asian, probably some form of Cynops, family Salamandridae. Check out this link maybe it can help with a firm ID http://www.livingunderworld.org/caud...salamandridae/

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    Thanks Kurt. Just found out its a Paddle-Tailed Newt (pachytriton labiatus)

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    The one on the left is a paddle tail. The one on the right is not. Not quite sure what the right hand one is though.

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    I keep getting told the one on the right is an Alpine Newt, Doesnt look much like the pics I have seen though

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    I don't think its a Pachytriton, the head shape is wrong (at least in the second pic.) Pachytriton have some what smooth skin. I am going to stick with Cynops as my ID.

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    So are we going for a cynops on pic 2. It does look similar to an Alpine but there are a few differences

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    Yeah, I going to stick with Cynops on the second picture. Not sure exactly which species though. The first picture is probably a Pachytriton.

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    The first pic is some sort of Pachytriton. The second pic is a little shakier, it could be a Cynops or maybe some sort of Triturus (anything from that original genus.) If you want more opinions try John's other site, caudata.org

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    they sell them as fire newts here.

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    The 2nd picture is a Mesotriton alpestris ssp. You can tell it's an alpine newt because where the orange of it's belly meets the dark color of it's back you can see a bit of blue with spots, that is a definite sign of an alpine. My best guess would be M.a.apuanus or M.a.alpestris because they're more commonly kept by hobbiests. You can get a better ID with a belly shot of the animal. The one in the pic is either an adult female or a large juvenile.

    Do you keep both newts in the same tank?

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    i cant relly see your pick so how can we help you

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    Quote Originally Posted by justin shockey View Post
    i cant relly see your pick so how can we help you

    You don't speak for everyone here. I can clearly see an alpine newt and a paddletail newt. True the pics aren't very bright, but that doesn't make it impossible to identify the subjects.

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    Are you sure that's an alpine, Jake? It's very brown and Cynops-like.

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    sorry did not think i was being a prick but im sorry

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    I can kind of see the second pic being an alpine newt. It looks like I see some blue and the stomach looks more uniform. I can't really tell, so i'll differ to John and Jake.

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    Sorry to bump an oldish thread, but they are definitely and without any doubt Pachytriton labiatus and Ichthyosaura alpestris.

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