Group lobbying for possible Amphibian pet trade ban in US

Originally Posted by Kurt

OK thats gross and I little bit disturbing. My appetite is ruined.

Hahaha sorry. xDDD I thought it was funny. I think if I said this in some parts of asia I think people would seriously eat it. I think its because something about being part of a cuisine? I forget. Frogs wouldnt mind doing this. xD
@onebeataway: sorry that was still funny.

I made a gross funny. xD

Originally Posted by 1beataway

I, too, am rather disturbed and grossed out.

Your picture seriously scares the **** out of me. xD Don't blame me. Its just manequins like that are creepy. They look like they wanna steal your soul and eat your brains. BREINS! BRIENS! lolol

My avatar scares me too. Blame Kurt.

Originally Posted by Deku

Agreed like that ol' saying says "you can catch more flies with honey than with vinegar". I do see his point of view about the whole laws and such. I seem to agree with him because not only did he bring proof, he backs everything up. But trust me you catch m ore flies with honey than vinegar. Iam sure you can do it.

Actually, that is not true. You catch more flies with vinegar than honey. That is why you set up trap jars for fruit flies using vinegar.

OK that was disturbing.
LOL! Its not as disturbing as seeing a friend eating crickets, or other insects. I know this kid who does it. Its gross as hell. I dont understand how his girlfriend kisses him. xDDD I mean like he eats crickets for money. Lol. Oh and Its not as disturbing as me saying id use that peanut butter with the flies and make a sandwhich out of it and give it to a random person. Lol or a friend. xD hahaha then tell em what that sandwhich had and run. xD

I too sometimes eat insects...

Yet again, the usual people make a serious thread into a joke. Thank you for lowering the level of the forum.

Originally Posted by John

Yet again, the usual people make a serious thread into a joke. Thank you for lowering the level of the forum.

Sorry john. dont be mad at us.. D: Least we're not fighting? And on the plus side. No other forum is friendly oriented like this one enough where you can make a joke and not get chewed out?

The forum has not been lowered in any way. Part of the friendliness of the forum is the ability to joke around. Its kind of how we bond to each other. We are serious when we need to be.

You can do that in the off-topic section but joking on a press release is not alright. All posts to the press release section are now moderated for anyone who doesn't have at least moderator status.

Originally Posted by John

You can do that in the off-topic section but joking on a press release is not alright. All posts to the press release section are now moderated for anyone who doesn't have at least moderator status.

do you mean that no one except moderators will be able to post on this thread and any threads like this? D:

Originally Posted by Deku

do you mean that no one except moderators will be able to post on this thread and any threads like this? D:

You can post but as you have just found out, you'll have to wait for one of us to go over the post and decide if it is an appropriate post for the Press Section.

Guess we better start talking about this again..

Originally Posted by John

One other point I would like to echo from previous posters. Zoos and academics don't give much respect or credence to hobbyists. I can understand their skepticism to a degree, but I know of several hobbyists who accomplish things such as breeding rare species first, finding range extensions for known species, etc. Whether they like it or not, many hobbyists are treasure troves of breeding knowledge and experience that could be utilized for the benefit of rare species. Thankfully, Amphibian Ark's director recognizes this, and through people like him we are starting to wake up so-called professionals that they have respect to give to hobbyists and a lot to learn from them too.

as a scientist myself, I very much agree with this. There is, undoubtedly, an arrogance in the scientific community at large and a refusal to give due credit to the experience of people who have not gone to school for, like, ever, to get a degree. In some scientific fields scientists are catching on, however: here in Alaska, for example, there is now a much greater effort than ever to collaborate with Native Alaskans and draw on their vast traditional knowledge of animal ecology and behavior. Maybe the scientific herp community will someday value the vast amount of knowledge hobbyists bring to the subject...