Adult Caatingas

I smell malnutrition due to a lack of supplementation. Their colors are quite beautiful none the less.

Originally Posted by GrifTheGreat

I smell malnutrition due to a lack of supplementation. Their colors are quite beautiful none the less.

Grif...Do you think it was just because of lack of supplements or because it was fed a poor diet w/ no supplements? From my research earthworms and dubias should be able to provide sufficient nutrition.

Originally Posted by coastal20

Grif...Do you think it was just because of lack of supplements or because it was fed a poor diet w/ no supplements? From my research earthworms and dubias should be able to provide sufficient nutrition.

Both actually. Lack of a diverse diet causing them to not get all the vital nutrition they need and also a lack of supplementation to provide the vitamins and nutrients they need and are not getting from a lack of diverse diet. MBD(Metabolic Bone Disease) probably begining to start.

I am no expert, but this is probably the cause of the turned feet.

Thanks for explaining Grif.

yea that the problem my female cranweli and had a spinal issue and and her sibling had a mbd i would'nt breed them if it could be genetic issue

Originally Posted by pac

yea that the problem my female cranweli and had a spinal issue and and her sibling had a mbd i would'nt breed them if it could be genetic issue

As far as I know. MBD isn't genetic. usually its caused from a lack of calcium and Vitamin D3, but there are genetic bone density issues. Like Scoliosis. That could be the cause of your Cranwelli's twisted spine.

They look good bro. Sorry they came with issues tho..

Philippe says these guys are different. A lot of problems start when giving too much vitamins. But it may also from being placed on only water.

ucold be that because when they try to dig in water over a long peroid of time there legs release and thent bee able to dig she would lean on her side

That's terrible. I have heard that keeping them on bare Toads or plastic can cause the muscles to stop working in the legs. That sucks. Is it fixable ?

i dont think so but they should give them a of little eco earth and they can have them in 6 qts but most breeders have them on paper towel or water but its for the breeder to clean not trying to nobody that does this method

Originally Posted by pac

i dont think so but they should give them a of little eco earth and they can have them in 6 qts but most breeders have them on paper towel or water but its for the breeder to clean not trying to nobody that does this method

Atleast the paper towels allow them to grip something so the muscles don't stop working. Water on bare glass or plastic is rediculous.

but still paper wil break into crumbles

Originally Posted by pac

but still paper wil break into crumbles

True. I don't see why people house them like that.

its easy to clean but my frogs living in my room the squeaking would get annoying.

Originally Posted by pac

its easy to clean but my frogs living in my room the squeaking would get annoying.

Lol!! Oh yeah.

I put terrarium carpet under the substrate so they aren't sitting on the glass in their urine.

once my frogs gets there heads under they stop

Originally Posted by pac

once my frogs gets there heads under they stop

Mine will burrow down pretty deep. So just incase I use Terrarium carpet.

i just bought some new tubs yetserday they are 7qt latch box i like bigger and a lit taller then 6qts they fit big females i have hippo in one she ate two shrimps and dig right on down