Early Christmas Present

Very nice and congratulations. Ray (Stemcellular) got some leuc's today as well. John and I were over his house today to see his frog room. It was awesome! John has already posted some pictures of some of Ray's spectacular frogs.
I think John has seriously been biten by the poison dart frog-bug.

Thanks Kurt. They are so awesome, I just saw one in amplexus Hopefully baby darts. It is so hard to get good pictures of mine. They never sit still. And I can never get the lighting to do them justice.

Congrats Tom. Amplexing...Wow, now that's a Christmas present.

Very nice darts.

Lookin' good! Just one note, dendrobates don't amplex so any behavior you see similar to that is actually wrestling. Chances are you have two females fighting it out. If they continue to do it you really want to consider separating them before one of them is over stressed.

Originally Posted by Kurt

I think John has seriously been biten by the poison dart frog-bug.

You're free to think that! I wouldn't go that far. I know what I like and now I have it :P.

Originally Posted by John

You're free to think that! I wouldn't go that far. I know what I like and now I have it :P.

Phyllobates terribilis?

Who said there was no such thing as amplexus in Dart Frogs? This is inguinal amplexus:




OK I'm kidding, but I couldn't resist, given how perfectly symmetrical this is. Just in case anyone is still confused, this is not amplexus - I was kidding - it's two males wrestling for breeding/territory rights.

Actually it's the Heimlich maneuver. One frog was choking and the other was trying to save its life. I was there, I saw it.

Just to be more specific, Dendrobatinae (sub-family) don't engage in amplexus. Epipedobates tricolor and E. anthonyi will breed in this position with the male on top grasping the female, and probably a few other species. Epipedobates are in the sub-family Colostethinae, while Colostethinae, Dendrobatinae, and Hyloxalinae make up the family Dendrobatidae which are all considered poison dart frogs.

"Dart frogs" in cephalic amplexus:

Man, that fruit fly really gives one a scale to the size of these frogs.

Very nice, Tom. I've kinda been browsing dart and mantella species, thinkin' I may want to try one or two after my fish tanks are stocked and the tree frog paludarium is done. Been thinkin' leucs were plain janes, simple yellow and black, but those pics of yours seem to have a nice metallic gold sheen. May hafta reassess that opinion. That's a great early Xmas gift!

Is that Expo an annual event? I'm assumin' it was in Denver. May hafta look at headin' that way next time 'round. Not much like that here in Wyoming. I started off thinkin' one species of frog would add some spice to my fish room, and now every day when I pop on here I see somethin' and think,"Ooh, I want one of those, and one of those, and one of those, and..." LOL.

WYite

No it is like 4 times a year go to this website for dates and descriptions. It is mostly a snake and leopard gecko thing but they sometimes have some other fun stuff like this year there was one large dart frog breeder and a large turtle breeder. http://www.rockymountainreptileexpo.com/

A large dart frog breeder and a large turtle breeder? Does that mean they were big, fat guys or that they breed LARGE dart frogs and LARGE turtles?

Sorry, only joking!

Very cool, Tom.

Now I can't wait till I'm ready for darts. That's a long ways off though.

Mike what are those frogs? Are they yours? Because they look awesome.

I have a lot of frogs and leucs are still one of my favorites.

Ron
Alpha Pro Breeders

Originally Posted by Wyomingite

Very nice, Tom. I've kinda been browsing dart and mantella species, thinkin' I may want to try one or two after my fish tanks are stocked and the tree frog paludarium is done. Been thinkin' leucs were plain janes, simple yellow and black, but those pics of yours seem to have a nice metallic gold sheen. May hafta reassess that opinion. That's a great early Xmas gift!

WYite

I kinda thought that leucs were kida pain too but I have always been partial to yellow. It has been my favorite color for forever.