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New pictures! She's an Edulis or not?

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    Is she an Edulis?
    Is she relly a female?
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    Default Re: New pictures! She's an Edulis or not?

    I should say "Yes", 85% confidence level.

    Do you have more pictures ?
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    Default Re: New pictures! She's an Edulis or not?

    Yes to both questions.

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    Default Re: New pictures! She's an Edulis or not?

    I like frogs in caves pictures. Cool looking frog.

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    Nice frog, congrats!

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    Default Re: New pictures! She's an Edulis or not?

    According to the very knowledgeable tgampper, your best bet is looking at the tympanum. If it's white-dotted, and the distance between the eye and tympanum is the same as the eye's diameter, it's an edulis. Otherwise, it's likely an adspersus.


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    Default Re: New pictures! She's an Edulis or not?

    its look 100% female from this point of view and is not a true giant it is a "dwarf" just too add her substrate should be eco earth

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    Default Re: New pictures! She's an Edulis or not?

    Thank you! She's a little grumpy sometimes but she's usually friendly, eats a lot, but she's lazy too.

    Yes, her little boat cave! She apparently loves it.

    In the first picture you can see the tympannus. I know definitely isn't a P.Adspersus, so I think is a P.Edulis but i'm not sure because of this kind of dwarf bullfrogs or these P.Obbianus...

    The substrate is coconut fiber and forest moss, would I have to change it?
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    Default Re: New pictures! She's an Edulis or not?

    Your frog has great patterns on back! IRT substrate; need to get rid of moss (impaction risk) if you feed frog there.

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    Default Re: New pictures! She's an Edulis or not?

    Love the the pattern and colors! Is she that dark in real life too or is it just the pictures?

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    Default Re: New pictures! She's an Edulis or not?

    No, i feed her in a secundary tank, without moss, it is that ok?

    Yes the patterns are very cute, and yes she's as dark as in the pictures, very dark green/brown.

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    Default Re: New pictures! She's an Edulis or not?

    Nice looking frog, Ian! I suggest adding about 3 inches of organic soil under the moss. These frogs like to bury themselves. I also feed my terrestrial frogs in a separate container, that way I can keep track of how much food they eat and keeps their cage fairly clean. Each frog has a separate feeding container. I am going to say with confidence it is a P. edulis. I agree with Martin that the tympanum (ear drum) is a key feature. The tympanum of edulis is about the same distance from the eye as the eye's diameter In adspersus, the tympanum is much farther away from the eye. Also the edulis tympanum has a white spot in the center. I have a couple of juvenile P. edulis and really like them. I have heard their "release call" when I pick them up, it's quite a strange sound
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    Default Re: New pictures! She's an Edulis or not?

    awww, look at that cute lil' face!!!

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